If you’re having a tough time following Intel’s new array of code names, don’t worry, you are not alone. The split between mainstream and U-series and Y-series has us all confused. There’s a Whiskey Lake, and Amber Lake, and at some point in the future a Tiger Lake. Comet Lake, believed to be a future desktop CPU (still on 14nm), looks like it is coming down into that 15W power envelope later this year in Q4.

In our discussions on the Computex show floor with a partner, they identified that upcoming mini-PC products that have previously been built on U-series processors will soon be updated to Comet Lake. Intel’s partner stated that they would be updating the product line with the new CPUs in November, however retail of those machines might not occur until a little bit later.

We did explicitly clarify with the partner that they were specifically talking about Comet Lake, and in the ~15W envelope, just in case we didn't hear correctly. They concurred.

This is an interesting development, because this means that Intel is likely to have two different U-series CPU lines in the market at the same time: the Ice Lake 9W-28W parts announced last week, presumably for the premium and high-end designs, and Comet Lake at 15W for the more budget oriented platforms. Given the rumors regarding Intel’s 10nm yields, and the known issues around the supply of Intel’s 14nm, this could be a way of bridging the gap between the high-cost and low-cost systems.

It will be interesting to see when Intel wants to talk about Comet Lake, either in a 15W form factor or something a little bit bigger. Just don’t ask what version of 14nm it is made on. Just for kicks, it might be called '10th Gen' too.

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  • peevee - Tuesday, June 04, 2019 - link

    "You have to wonder what really happened at Intel. Beyond the PR and the excuses, what massive fail has gone on."

    Exactly. The press does not investigate and report massive failures in huge businesses which cost tens of billions of $$$ to shareholders, countries and often jobs to tens of thousands of employees. You'd think such a massive thing would attract years of reporting and thousands of interviews with former and current employees - but they'd rather report on release of some gadget which is just like another gadget.
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  • AshlayW - Monday, June 03, 2019 - link

    Intel fast on the road to irrelevance. Reply
  • ballsystemlord - Monday, June 03, 2019 - link

    With such a problem with their 10nm node, I'm surprised that they did not start talking about it so that other engineers in the field could help them. Not voluntarily, but say, if 1 guy at company X helps them a "lot" then the dude and his company get a free cross licensing deal with respect to Intel's 10nm node.
    It's better then slowly fading into oblivion....

    But, with Intel's cash reserves and size I think they still have a very good chance of a strong return. They can do a lot that much smaller companies cannot; like hire on 1,000 more people to work on 10nm, and/or 1,000 new 10nm machines to brute force their way to a technologically functional 10nm node.
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  • peevee - Tuesday, June 04, 2019 - link

    You cannot strong-force R&D. "Adding more people to a late project makes it later" - Brook's law.

    Actual process which works is REMOVING counter-productive people.
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  • name99 - Monday, June 03, 2019 - link

    “Given the rumors regarding Intel’s 10nm yields”
    So NOW even mainstream are starting to admit this? Well, better late than never I guess.

    That’s the past 7 yrs of Intel in a nutshell — those outside the iRDF see problems based on a pattern of behavior, with the mainstream only catching up six months to two years later...
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  • peevee - Monday, June 03, 2019 - link

    Yay, 14nm! Only 5 months left!

    Oh, wait...
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  • shabby - Monday, June 03, 2019 - link

    Remember folks, only Intel's 10nm is delayed, their 7nm is on track... 😂 Reply
  • peevee - Tuesday, June 04, 2019 - link

    With 2-year cadence of years gone by, they should have been on "5nm" now and showing "3nm" on slides... Reply
  • ilkhan - Saturday, June 08, 2019 - link

    If its made by Intel and not 10nm I literally don't care at this point. Stop releasing new 14nm "upgrades" and get 10nm out.

    -A Zen2 desktop buyer and someone who really wants a Surface Laptop3 with a 10nm Intel in it this holiday season.
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