VIA continues to swap back and forth with NVIDIA as the premiere Athlon 64 core logic, but any and all efforts in the Pentium/Celeron arena have been largely dominated by SIS and Intel. Within the last 18 months with the inception of the PT800 chipset we have seen a strong push within the company for a contending Pentium 4 chipset. As a dual channel contender with Intels i848P chipset, VIA has done better for itself - although many can contend that VIA is only stealing competition from SiS and barely scratching business at Intel.

So where do we see VIA going in the next six months? For one, it looks like VIA wants to pick up the pieces where Intel does not; particularly with dual PCIe x16 connectors. As you may recall, Intel's high end server/workstation Tumwater chipsets support two PEG slots, even though one is merely an x8 lane with with an x16 interface. As somewhat of an unexpected, VIA looks like they will not only support, but encourage NVIDIA's SLI movement. It may be the case that VIA is working on some DeltaChrome SLI project of their own, but most likely it seems that VIA does not want to be left behind in the multi display market.

VIA's push for dual PEG interfaces will show up on both Intel and AMD platforms. The implementation of K8T890 Pro looks to be the most ambitious.

However, one thing that was skirted around in the roadmaps was the lack of PCIe lanes on K8T890 andK8T890 Pro. We will most likely see 2 x1 lanes from the southbridge, but only one x4 lane on K8T890. This x4 lane is not mentioned in K8T890 Pro roadmap, and will most likely not exist in the Pro version. VIA is extremely specific in the roadmap to not mention that their PEG solution is x16. It may be the case that we see two x8 devices with x16 interconnects. This is perfectly allowable int the PCIe specification; Intel implements it just so in their Tumwater chipset.

Below you can see VIA's approach to the PT894 Pro chipset. Notice the lack of additional PCIe devices stemming from the northbridge.

The PT894 Pro and K8T890 Pro both look to only utilize the new VT8251 southbridge. We have lightly talked about this southbridge in the past but never had many details to report on it. It looks to us the VT8251 will differ from the tried and true VT8237 in two ways; new 8 channel audio support and native NCQ for SATA. Look forward to seeing VT8251 on reference motherboards sometime before September.

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  • Anemone - Sunday, August 15, 2004 - link

    Sounds like maybe end of August or September. They are talking about it now, and there isn't much left to Q3.

    Now where is NF4 and Pci-e???
  • danidentity - Sunday, August 15, 2004 - link

    So who knows when we'll see mobos with the K8T890 PRO?
  • johnsonx - Sunday, August 15, 2004 - link

    #2 & #4,

    I think you're both saying the same thing. Two x16 physical slots that have x8 signalling, or possibly 1 x16 and 1 x8 (but then you get no additional x4 slot(s) from the northbridge, which are surely faster than the 2 PCIe lanes coming off the Southbridge).

    #2 is also right; I don't have the numbers in my head, but I'm pretty sure that an x8 PCIe connection STILL has more bandwidth than 8x AGP, and no current card even uses all of that bandwidth.
  • epicstruggle - Sunday, August 15, 2004 - link

    goku21 #2,

    where did you see dual x16 slots? This article/blurb mentioned nothing of dual x16. What will more than likely happen is that you will be able to use 2 16xpcie vid cards, by plugging/slotting them in the 2 available 16x slots. BUT the 2 slots will not both be 16x, at most youll get 1 x16 and the other 8x or lower, or some combination of 8x+ slots.

    God i hope i dint make it more confusing.

    epic
  • Stefpet - Saturday, August 14, 2004 - link

    Since the K8T890 was first expected in Q2 it is great to see it finally coming so I - at last - may have my Athlon64 AND PCI-Express card...
  • goku21 - Saturday, August 14, 2004 - link

    It's nice to see someone producing the dual x16 slots.

    However, though I'm not totally sure of this, but aren't the PCIe graphics card that are out now barely just scratching the surface of the available bandwith that x16 has to offer? If that's the case, then for the time being a cheap x8 with a x16 interface wouldn't do any harm at all, but then again I could be wrong myself.
  • danidentity - Friday, August 13, 2004 - link

    I'm assuming "MP" in those images means Mass Production? If so, we're going to see mobos with the K8T890 PRO before the end of September?

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