HP Reveals Envy x360 15 Laptops with AMD's Latest Ryzen APUs

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• rrinker - Tuesday, March 19, 2019 - link

  SO you want a tablet? 15" is anything but giant. As thin as these are, they are easily portable. Since switching to a modern machine (but not as thin as these), I can get my laptop AND my external USB monitor in the same carry bag that previously was a struggle to fit just the old laptop. Plus at 1080 - even on a 15" screen I need to set the magnification to 150% to be able to read the thing. 1080 on an 11 or 12 inch screen? Are you insane? Thankfully Windows 10 actually works in this regard, although web pages can;t seem to figure it out yet, and when remoting into servers, it can still be tough to read if the server was set on 1080 or higher.

• PeachNCream - Tuesday, March 19, 2019 - link

  The unnecessary accusation of insanity aside (over screen size of all things -- that's treading into turning computers into high drama), I would be highly reluctant to get a 1080 res screen at 11-12 inches. 1366x768 seems a lot more prudent at that size as I already find it necessary to 125% scale with 1080 on a 14.1 inch panel. I was pretty happy with 10 inch panels on those single core Atom netbooks from years ago, but performance was a tad slow when they were new and not at all fast enough now. Also, tablets seem pointless to me. I have a phone if I want something with an on-screen keyboard. Windows, despite Microsoft's efforts, still works a bit better for me with a keyboard and touchpad so I'd be reluctant to give that up or fumble around with components that aren't at least physically joined together on a full-time basis.

• hanselltc - Wednesday, March 20, 2019 - link

  I mean if you were happy with a 10 inch atom, you might as well just grab an ipad?

• PeachNCream - Wednesday, March 20, 2019 - link

  Was happy. Up to 2016 or so, an Atom n270 was good enough to serve as a primary home PC. It's not sufficient now and while I think iPads are awesome, I just don't like the idea of the keyboard being a physically independent component. If I'm at something with a larger-than-phone sized screen, I'm doing something that benefits from a keyboard so an iPad would effectively always end up being paired up with a keyboard so there isn't a point in paying a price premium for a computing device that I'd end up using as a laptop. And there's the matter of connectivity with other devices or external storage that is a bit more cumbersome on a tablet like the iPad. I think my breaking point for buying an iPad would be the inclusion of microSD and a user replaceable battery. That would absolutely make me think really hard about buying one at almost any price Apple saw fit to charge.

• i-know-not - Tuesday, March 19, 2019 - link

  As a numpad user, I'll always be on 15 inch laptops unless someone decides cram one on a 13/14 inch one or find a creative solution.

• PeachNCream - Wednesday, March 20, 2019 - link

  There are a number of times (pun intended) that I wanted a numpad on my laptops. I've got a USB external pad, but I'll concede it isn't the best solution as most smaller laptops have only a few USB ports. In your case, you're probably going to end up on 15+ inch systems for the time being. I would not want to use the Fn key combo for numpad extended data entry. It's a non-starter.

• jaydee - Wednesday, March 20, 2019 - link

  Same here, numpad is a must.
  
  Just ordered Lenovo Thinkpad E585 (Ryzen 5 2500U, 1080p IPS, for under $700 after online coupons). Wasn't particularly looking for AMD, but it was ~$150 cheaper than i5 with no other compromises, so it works for me.

• Rookierookie - Wednesday, March 20, 2019 - link

  If only HP offered a laptop like the Elitebook x360 1020 G2 with a 12.5 inch screen. Oh wait.
  
  You go get your ultrabook; there are plenty of choices available from every major notebook maker. If you insist on Ryzen, there's always the ThinkPad A285. Other people need that 15" screen for their work and I don't know why you even felt the need to comment when the product's clearly not meant for your needs.

• PeachNCream - Thursday, March 21, 2019 - link

  I've been poking around online since the BBS days, so I should know better than to have an opinion or bother to express it. It'll always trigger someone, somewhere even if it isn't something you'd initially think was incendiary. Skins are distressingly soft where computers are concerned which is weird since I'd go out on a limb to say that most of AT's readers are male and many consider themselves on the logical/technical side of thought rather than being willing to admit they are emotional creatures with narrow band limits on what feelings they're conditioned to experience.

• Targon - Tuesday, March 19, 2019 - link

  Go figure that HP would cripple any AMD based machine however they can. Single channel memory without the option to go dual channel limits performance. Due to the size, sustained testing would favor the Ryzen based machines due to the base speeds being higher, and limited cooling will make these models not run at turbo speeds for very long.
  
  Lenovo has been better about this, where even if there is only a single slot for memory, there is one memory channel soldered to the motherboard.