In perhaps a very unexpected turn of events, one of our first meetings at CES has heralded an important nugget of information. One of the boutique system integrators here at CES has told me, in conjunction with a system they are planning to ship, that Intel’s 28-core W-3175X processor will be ‘around $8k’ at retail.

In the middle of 2018, Intel announced that it would be releasing an unlocked 28-core processor, which we subsequently learned will be the Xeon W-3175X, which will have a TDP of 255W with frequencies from 3.1 GHz base to 4.3 GHz single core. It would require a new motherboard due to the six memory channels and a socket change.

We were also told that Intel is planning both 28-core and 24-core parts, and we should expect systems with the top chip and corresponding motherboards (such as ASUS’ ROG Dominus Extreme, or GIGABYTE's un-named board) to easily be in the five figure range, especially as systems with the hardware will also be paired with high-end graphics, lots of memory, and plenty of storage.

We were told by the system builder that they will expect to start shipping systems sometime in Q2, however the processors will be available before then.

If the price of $8k holds true, the chip is expensive. More reasonable estimates at the announcement were nearer $4k, because of what the CPU has to compete against. Ultimately, Intel knows that this chip will end up competing against its own Xeon Platinum 28-core parts, which already start from $8874. Because this will be a single socket part, unlocked, and have all the cores, I can totally see it eating into some of Intel’s margin of those parts. This hardware is perfect for high frequency traders who make 6 or 7 figures a day on the market – they will happily drop 5 figures on a faster machine if it means they can make more money. These chips aren’t for 99.99% of consumers at the end of the day, and I can very easily see Intel making the argument that they’re not competing against 32-core Threadripper.

We’re looking to confirm this price with other vendors, if it's with/without tax or what a boutique builder might charge to add it into the system. We know that some online retailers have starting listing parts at just over $4000, so it's an interesting disparity between the two. But we thought you should know what we’ve been told. Thoughts below!

*Images from this story were taken at Computex 2018 and Intel's August 2018 event.

 

Addition:

We have spoken to other people in the know, and have learned that Intel's original pricing for the chip was around $8000. One of our sources is saying that the initial documents put the price up at that high, however discussions with distributors have confirmed that the on-shelf price is more likely to be around $4500, in line with some retailer listings already out on the market. However, Intel's documents to its partners still state the $8000 price; perhaps the MSRP is that high, however retailers might be cutting into their own margins to sell the chip.

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  • r3loaded - Monday, January 07, 2019 - link

    It's purely wishful thinking. HFT traders who need this level of extreme performance and ultra low latency are already moving on to implementing their algorithms onto FPGAs. Reply
  • Bp_968 - Monday, January 07, 2019 - link

    Nope. Look up Infiniband. Its basically designed for super low latency, super high speed networking. Reply
  • jordanclock - Tuesday, January 08, 2019 - link

    HFT is also very space limited. It's a lot of companies competing for the same connections that are near the exchanges. Many CPUs means many boxes or larger boxes. Reply
  • twtech - Thursday, January 10, 2019 - link

    Many CPUs maybe, but at least up to 4 CPUs it's not that hard to find reasonably-sized systems/motherboards.

    If the W3175x is not single-CPU limited like the rest of the W series, then it might make sense. But if it is limited to 1S configurations, then $8k is way too much. For that money, I'd rather have a pair of slightly lower-clocked 24-core regular Xeons.
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  • twtech - Wednesday, January 09, 2019 - link

    How many of those are there, really? Maybe they'll sell 100 of these CPUs. Reply
  • twtech - Tuesday, January 08, 2019 - link

    This makes me think it was never intended to be a real product - just a diversion. Even if it is based on a $10k server chip, they must know this is too much - by a factor of about 2x.

    If you could dual-socket it, they might sell a few. But otherwise they'll sell almost none of them - probably by design.
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  • guyr - Friday, January 11, 2019 - link

    Haha! $8K for a workstation chip. Good luck with that. I retired from software development. The last company I worked for was not perturbed about spending $5K for a dual Xeon workstation for developers, expected to last about 4 years. But the additional productivity (if any) from this $8K chip just won't justify the additional cost. This will be a very niche product. As others have suggested, maybe this is just a halo product, and Intel doesn't really expect to sell any. Reply
  • SharpEars - Friday, January 11, 2019 - link

    No matter how high it actually gets priced for H1-2019 (if it is even released in H1), as soon as Threadripper comes along this summer, I have a feeling things will change. Reply
  • Gadgety - Thursday, January 24, 2019 - link

    "have learned that Intel's original pricing for the chip was around $8000. One of our sources is saying that the initial documents put the price up at that high, however discussions with distributors have confirmed that the on-shelf price is more likely to be around $4500"

    Gee, they really seem to know their market... Seems totally amateurish. This is Intel?
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