Conclusion: Price Makes Perfect

When you buy a system, ask yourself – what matters most to you?

Is it gaming performance?
Is it bang-for-buck?
Is it all-out peak performance?
Is it power consumption?
Is it performance per watt?

I can guarantee that out of the AnandTech audience, we will have some readers in each of these categories. Some will be price sensitive, while others will not. Some will be performance sensitive, others will be power (or noise) sensitive. The point here is that the Xeon W-3175X only caters to one market: high performance.

We tested the Xeon W-3175X in our regular suite of tests, and it performs as much as we would expect – it is a 28 core version of the Core i9-9980XE, so in single threaded tests it is about the same, but in raw multi-threaded tests it performs up to 50% better. For rendering, that’s great. For our variable threaded tests, the gains are not as big, from either no gain at all to around 20% or so. This is the nature of increasing threads – at some point, software hits Amdahl’s law of scaling and more threads does nothing. However, for software that isn’t at that point, the W-3175X comes in like a wrecking ball.

Corona 1.3 Benchmark

For our graphs, some of them had two values: a regular value in orange, and one in red called 'Intel Spec'. ASUS offers the option to 'open up' the power and current limits of the chip, so the CPU is still running at the same frequency but is not throttled. Despite Intel saying that they recommend 'Intel Spec', the system they sent to us to test was actually set up with the power limits opened up, and the results they provided for us to compare to internally also correlated with that setting. As a result, we provided both sets results for our CPU tests.

For the most part, the 'opened up' results scored better, especially in multithreaded tests, however Intel Spec did excel in memory bound tests. This is likely because in the 'opened up' way, there is no limit to keeping the high turbo which means there could be additional stalls for memory based workloads. In a slower 'Intel Spec' environment, there's plenty of power for the mesh and the memory controllers do deal with requests as they come.

Power, Overclockability, and Availability

Two-and-a-half questions hung over Intel during the announcement and launch of the W-3175X. First one was power, second was overclockability, and two-point-five was availability.

On the power side of the equation, again the W-3175X comes in like a wrecking ball, and this baby is on fire. While this chip has a 255W TDP, the turbo max power value is 510W – we don’t hit that at ‘stock’ frequency, which is more around the 300W mark, but we can really crank out the power when we start overclocking.

This processor has a regular all-core frequency of 3.8 GHz, with AVX2 at 3.2 GHz and AVX-512 at 2.8 GHz. In our testing, just by adjusting multipliers, we achieved an all-core turbo of 4.4 GHz and an AVX2 turbo of 4.0 GHz, with the systems drawing 520W and 450W respectively. At these frequencies, our CPU was reporting temperatures in excess of 110ºC! This processor is actually rated with a thermal shutoff at 120ºC, well above the 105ºC we see with regular desktop processors, which shows that perhaps Intel had to bin these chips enough that the high temperature profile was required.

On the question of availability, this is where the road is not so clear. Intel is intending only to sell these processors through OEMs and system integrators as part of pre-built systems only, for now. We’ve heard some numbers about how many chips will be made (it’s a low four-digit number), but we can only approximately confirm those numbers given one motherboard vendor also qualified how many boards they were building.

One of Anand’s comments I will always remember during our time together at AnandTech was this:

“There are no bad products, only bad prices.”

According to OEMs we spoke to, initially this processor was going to be $8k. The idea here is that being 28-core and unlocked, Intel did not want to consume its $10k Xeon market. Since then, distributors told us that the latest information they were getting was around $4500, and now Intel is saying that the recommended consumer price is $3000. That’s not Intel’s usual definition of ‘per-1000 units’, that’s the actual end-user price. Intel isn’t even quoting a per-1000 unit price, which just goes to substantiate the numbers we heard about volume.

At $8000, this CPU would be dead in the water, only suitable for high-frequency traders who could eat up the cost within a few hours of trading. At $4500, it would be a stretch, given that 18-core on Intel is only $2099, and AMD offers the 32-core 2990WX for $1799 which surpasses the performance per dollar on any rendering task.

At $2999, Intel has probably priced this one just right.

At $2999, it's not a hideous monstronsity that some worried it would be, but instead becomes a very believeable progression from the Core i9-9980XE. Just don’t ask about the rest of the system, as an OEM is probably looking at a $7k minimum build, or $10k end-user shelf price.

Gaming: F1 2018
POST A COMMENT

136 Comments

View All Comments

  • cmcl - Thursday, January 31, 2019 - link

    Hi Ian,

    Your testing mentions running Linux 'when feasible' and when in 'full swing' - is that any time soon? I think benchmarks would benefit from cross-platform tests (remember the debacle of Threadripper performance on Windows..)

    Cheers
    Reply
  • DARK_BG - Thursday, January 31, 2019 - link

    This review sucks there is not a single data for how the Socket A Duron 900 stacks up against the rest :D After all 19 years passed we should know how far the CPUs advanced :D Reply
  • Tesseramous - Thursday, January 31, 2019 - link

    I would not want to buy a limited edition piece of hardware with only 1500 sold as there is likely to be a lack of support; compatibility issues. Reply
  • evilpaul666 - Friday, February 1, 2019 - link

    Console emulation tests? Reply
  • mocseg - Friday, February 1, 2019 - link

    I think I'll wait for an updated linux comparison
    https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&...
    Reply
  • Beaver M. - Friday, February 1, 2019 - link

    I just want a Intel 12-core 5 GHz chip. Lets hope the next generation delivers that. Reply
  • mapesdhs - Saturday, February 2, 2019 - link

    Why the brand loyalty? That's not logical. Just buy the best solution for the intended task, no matter who makes it. If right now that's Intel, because of AVX or 1080p high-refresh gaming, then so be it, but for Blender atm AMD is king. It depends on the task. Some absolute notion of branded desire is bizarre. Reply
  • Beaver M. - Sunday, February 3, 2019 - link

    Mixed. Too many bad experiences with stability and software support with AMD. Reply
  • Updated Software - Sunday, February 3, 2019 - link

    https://freeproductkeys.org/wise-care-365-pro-crac...">Wise Care 365 Pro Crack
    Insightful Care 365 PRO Crack is a splendid and ground-breaking application for cleaning and upgrading your framework. This product enables you to clean your framework and increment framework preparing speed. With this, you can without much of a stretch erase all the garbage information, junk containers, and excess documents just as pointless procedures
    Reply
  • Updated Software - Sunday, February 3, 2019 - link

    <a href="https://freeproductkeys.org/wise-care-365-pro-crac... Care 365 Pro Crack</a>
    Insightful Care 365 PRO Crack is a splendid and ground-breaking application for cleaning and upgrading your framework. This product enables you to clean your framework and increment
    Reply

Log in

Don't have an account? Sign up now