Samsung 172X: 12ms Response Time for 17" LCD
by Kristopher Kubicki on June 8, 2004 12:05 AM EST- Posted in
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Final Thoughts
When we first received our Samsung 172X, we were fairly skeptical about its performance. Reviews across the web have been more or less mixed, some claiming the SyncMaster 172X is a prodigal monitor, while others claim just the opposite. In many cases, it appears to be a bit of both.Certainly, the step backwards in display panels, going from 8-bit PVA displays to 6-bit TN LCDs is not a great marker of progress. We found imperfections with the color rendition, which were better than our Sharp LL-191A. Unfortunately, some were not better than our Dell 2001FP or Samsung 192T.
On the other hand, the lower response time is definitely a step in the right direction. Looking back at our Samsung 172X, we could say that we were generally pleased and surprised. The US retail version of the LCD produces phenomenally better results than the Hitachi CML174. If you are convinced that response time is the final factor holding you back from getting an LCD, you may be fairly surprised with the 172X. Kudos to Samsung for producing the first 17" 12ms LCD, and doing an excellent job with it.
The SyncMaster 172X boasts the lowest response times to date, but even 12ms response times are not the end of the line. After working closely with Samsung over the last few weeks, we began hearing information about their next generation PVA enhancement - DCC-II. Samsung's DCC (and LG Philips' ODC) technologies both work by using algorithms to anticipate twisting the substrate (this is called "pre-tilt"). According to sources at the recent Society for Information Displays in Seattle, Samsung believes that the new DDC-II technology is capable of achieving 8ms gray-to-gray response times! Stay tuned for more LCD reviews at it appears things are just starting to heat up.
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operator - Tuesday, June 8, 2004 - link
#7That's myth. There's a lot of articles debunking said fact.
synic - Tuesday, June 8, 2004 - link
prod·i·gal ( P ) Pronunciation Key (prd-gl)adj.
1. Rashly or wastefully extravagant: prodigal expenditures on unneeded weaponry; a prodigal life.
2. Giving or given in abundance; lavish or profuse: prodigal praise. See Synonyms at profuse.
Obviously it doesn't mean what you think it does, given the context you use it in.
jdreyer - Tuesday, June 8, 2004 - link
If the human eye is only capable of detecting 60 frames per second (one frame every 16 ms), why do we need response times any faster than that?Mithan - Tuesday, June 8, 2004 - link
I had one of these for a week and I found it to be a fairly good monitor, though there was a tad bit of ghosting in games like UT2004, however it was extremly playable.The main problem I had with this monitor is that I had to order 3 of them before I got one that didn't have a burnt or stuck pixel.
JGF - Tuesday, June 8, 2004 - link
I've decided that LCD's still arent for me yet and purchased a Mitsubishi 19' 930SB CRT. Gorgeous monitor.T8000 - Tuesday, June 8, 2004 - link
When you select the 16 bit color mode in Windows or in games, does that disable color shifting, because 16 bit is less then 3 x 6 bit?AlexWade - Tuesday, June 8, 2004 - link
No, you can stop waiting. I've got a 19" LG.Philips S-IPS panel and I notice absolutely NO streaking and ghosting in anything, even though official response time is 25 ms. I paid a hair under $600 for the 19" LG 1910S. Its Analog only. And the text isn't too sharp. I don't like that. Still, it cost less than the Samsung monitors.The NEC 1996NXi (the numbers may be off) is also a S-IPS panel. But it costs more and is harder to find than the LG.
Phiro - Tuesday, June 8, 2004 - link
I dunno, sounds pretty good to me. If it was $300 I'd try to buy it. Currently $540, I'm going to bookmark this on their realtime price thing and check it every week for awhile.araczynski - Tuesday, June 8, 2004 - link
so...just keep waiting as usual...