Samsung 172X: 12ms Response Time for 17" LCD
by Kristopher Kubicki on June 8, 2004 12:05 AM EST- Posted in
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Full Screen Application
Here are a few quick looks at some demanding full screen applications. All of these screenshots are taken with the Analog input on the LCDs.The Matrix Reload, The Matrix - The Matrix has several qualities to make it a good candidate for testing full motion video (color reproduction is not one of them). We are able to study image clarity and motion using a few of the same clips, and we were not disappointed with the 172X. Motion video was crisp, bright and vibrant. Adjusting the brightness too high would wash out the image, similar to the LL-191A.
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Morrowind - Although Morrowind plays smoothly, some colors do not look just right. We noticed blue hues often when we should see grey ones. This may be due to over-correction in the calibration.
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Max Payne 2 - Max Payne has been our standard test for light and dark comparisons as far as we can remember. While testing, we noticed an improved TrTf average response time compared to the SyncMaster 172T. Unfortunately, explosions looked a bit washed out; this seems to be a side effect of the 6-bit LCD panel.
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Halo - We were fairly impressed with Halo's performance. Colors were very accurate after calibration, and as expected, we did not see much motion blur. The difference between the Sharp 191A and the Samsung 172X was negligible, but the difference between the Samsung 172T and the Samsung 172X was very noticeable.
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Unreal Tournament 2004 - If we thought Halo looked good, Unreal Tournament was just icing on the cake. UT2K4 is a little more faster-paced than Halo, and the effect of motion blur is often detectable. Performance between the Dell 2001FP and the SyncMaster 172X were about the same. We were very pleased with the results.
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operator - Tuesday, June 8, 2004 - link
#7That's myth. There's a lot of articles debunking said fact.
synic - Tuesday, June 8, 2004 - link
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jdreyer - Tuesday, June 8, 2004 - link
If the human eye is only capable of detecting 60 frames per second (one frame every 16 ms), why do we need response times any faster than that?Mithan - Tuesday, June 8, 2004 - link
I had one of these for a week and I found it to be a fairly good monitor, though there was a tad bit of ghosting in games like UT2004, however it was extremly playable.The main problem I had with this monitor is that I had to order 3 of them before I got one that didn't have a burnt or stuck pixel.
JGF - Tuesday, June 8, 2004 - link
I've decided that LCD's still arent for me yet and purchased a Mitsubishi 19' 930SB CRT. Gorgeous monitor.T8000 - Tuesday, June 8, 2004 - link
When you select the 16 bit color mode in Windows or in games, does that disable color shifting, because 16 bit is less then 3 x 6 bit?AlexWade - Tuesday, June 8, 2004 - link
No, you can stop waiting. I've got a 19" LG.Philips S-IPS panel and I notice absolutely NO streaking and ghosting in anything, even though official response time is 25 ms. I paid a hair under $600 for the 19" LG 1910S. Its Analog only. And the text isn't too sharp. I don't like that. Still, it cost less than the Samsung monitors.The NEC 1996NXi (the numbers may be off) is also a S-IPS panel. But it costs more and is harder to find than the LG.
Phiro - Tuesday, June 8, 2004 - link
I dunno, sounds pretty good to me. If it was $300 I'd try to buy it. Currently $540, I'm going to bookmark this on their realtime price thing and check it every week for awhile.araczynski - Tuesday, June 8, 2004 - link
so...just keep waiting as usual...