CPU Heat Comparison: How Hot is Prescott?
by Derek Wilson on April 16, 2004 4:32 AM EST- Posted in
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Processor Temperature Comparisons
We can see that, at idle, Prescott is 6 degrees Celsius hotter than Northwood. Of course, its only 4 degrees hotter than the 3400+ (and cooler than what we are reading for the Athlon XP processors). It is important to note that the Athlon XP and Duron processors do not have heat spreaders on them, and therefore will dissipate all of their heat into a more concentrated area of the heatsink (directly below the thermistor). This could help account for their temperature readings, but since their interface with the heatsink is so different, it may be better to only compare them with eachother.
Under load the gap between Northwood and Prescott is cut down by a degree. These two are now the hottest processors we are looking at, but 5 degrees of difference isn't all that much in looking at the temperature at the bottom of the heatsink near the contact area.
In looking at temperature increase in percentage, there isn't much point in ordering the graph. We don't even know what's better here. A small increase could mean that your processor doesn't draw that much more power under load, or it could mean that your architecture is inefficient in saving power when idle. We thought that these numbers were interesting though, so we included them.
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Xentropy - Monday, April 19, 2004 - link
"Most of us here are not mindless zealots who believe everything we read."Unless it's anti-Intel propaganda.
"but i have seen a prescot melt motherboards"
Have you? How many motherboards? Online in some forum or on HardOCP or whatever doesn't count. Personally seen, in person, how many?
Pumpkinierre - Sunday, April 18, 2004 - link
#46 I thought that was standard with Win XP. When I looked at the idle temps., I thought that might be the problem. On my K6-3/Win98, I run Rain which does the same thing. Good Post!lesovers - Sunday, April 18, 2004 - link
The main reason the AMD XP chips are so much hotter at ilde is they do not normally implement the HALT command like the P4s. The VIA KT chipsets (266, 333 and 400) have registers that can enable the CPU to HALT. Link for this is:http://www.ocmodshop.com/default.aspx?a=125%20
My XP2000 cool down be by about 20C at idle with the chipset registers changed !!!!!!
boardsportsrule - Saturday, April 17, 2004 - link
ok wow, how can you have a 3.2 prescot be at 34C with a medeocer heatsink, when i see people complain about high temps with their 2.8 prescott using a sp-94...then onto how could a 2600+ be hotter then a 3.2 prescott...i havent seen a 2600+ melt a motherboard, but i have seen a prescot melt motherboards... this stinks of intel...wounder howmuch they are paying him?ZobarStyl - Saturday, April 17, 2004 - link
This processor is supposed to carry Intel through something like 4.0+ GHz when Tejas gets here; if it's this hot against a Northwood, how do they expect to hit past 3.8 or so without watercooling or Prometia's built into standard desktops. The question isn't whether or not Prescott is a bad processor (it's not a disaster of Williamette proportions) but whether or not it can carry the weight Intel is slated to heft onto it's back for the next cycle.mindless1 - Saturday, April 17, 2004 - link
Margalus, get a grip!Even INTEL specs it to run that much hotter. Will you not even believe Intel?
mechBgon - Saturday, April 17, 2004 - link
Margalus, I've seen several Forum members try the Prescott and go back to their Northwoods because the Prescott was running very, very hot and/or doing scary stuff to their motherboards. And these are neither AMD zealots nor newbies. IIRC one of them is running a Prometia phase-change cooling system and another is running watercooling.Margalus - Saturday, April 17, 2004 - link
I can't believe the number of amd fanatics that just can't accept reality. the prescott is not as hot as the anti intel fanatics are saying. This article was pretty well done for the comparisons they did. All of you saying how it is bs have never even used a prescott, you just listen to clueless people like cramitpal who haven't even passed 3rd grade yetAIWGuru - Saturday, April 17, 2004 - link
"Of course, we'll be there to test it out as soon as we can get ahold of a 64bit enabled chip."Why are you waiting for a 64 bit prescott? Why not use the A64 you already have?
AIWGuru - Saturday, April 17, 2004 - link
Coruscant, your understanding is incorrect.What you're TRYING to describe is the flow of (thermal) energy to the path with the least resistance - the movement of hot to cold.
What you forgot to take into account is that once the heatsink starts to "absorb" heat it may quickly cease to become the path of least resistance.
Regardless, this test is fundamentally USELESS as, unless the dissipation rate of the heatsink has been exceeded, any measurement will be the same.
Because heat does not build up on a linear scale, any measurement above that level will also be innacruate.
The placement of the probe is also somewhat stupid.