The NVIDIA Titan V Deep Learning Deep Dive: It's All About The Tensor Cores
by Nate Oh on July 3, 2018 10:15 AM ESTNVIDIA Caffe2 Docker: ResNet50 and ImageNet
Kernels and deep learning math operations may be useful, but in the end devices are trained with real datasets. Using the standard ILSVRC 2012 pictureset, we run the standard ResNet-50 training implementation that is included in NVIDIA's Caffe2 Docker image. The model trains on ImageNet and gives us some throughput data.
While there were separate switches for FP16 and tensor cores, running FP16 mode with tensors enabled and disabled resulted in identical results for the Titan V.
No score indicates card ran out of video memory
In terms of pure throughput, the Titan V takes the lead at all batch sizes. In fact, with tensors enabled it is able to go beyond 64 batches, as opposed to the other cards, even though they all have 12 GBs of VRAM. The reasoning is that FP16 consumes less video memory.
The issue with raw throughput metrics is that real-world performance for deep learning is never so simple. For one, many models might be optimized for throughput but sacrifice accuracy and/or training time. Peak or even sustained images trained per second may not be useful if the model takes an extended amount of time to converge. This is particularly relevant for Volta with FP16 storage and tensor cores, as there may be a number of necessary mitigations like loss scaling or single precision batch normalization, which wouldn't be directly accounted for in throughput metrics.
That being said, finding modern benchmarks that are Volta-aware, reasonably close to state-of-the-art, provide better metrics, go beyond CNNs for computer vision, and are accessible by non-researchers, has been a struggle. Throughput benchmarks are easier to validate and create, but in many situations they are better suited for identifying bottlenecks, platform differences, and optimization points.
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Ryan Smith - Tuesday, July 3, 2018 - link
To clarify: SXM3 is the name of the socket used for the mezzanine form factor cards for servers. All Titan Vs are PCie.Drumsticks - Tuesday, July 3, 2018 - link
Nice review. Will anandtech be putting forth an effort to cover the ML hardware space in the future? AMD and Intel both seem to have plans here.The V100 and Titan V should have well over 100TF according to Nvidia in training and inference, if I remember correctly, but nothing I saw here got close in actuality. Were these benches not designed to hit those numbers, or are those numbers just too optimistic in most scenarios to occur?
Ryan Smith - Tuesday, July 3, 2018 - link
"The V100 and Titan V should have well over 100TF according to Nvidia in training and inference"The Titan V only has 75% of the memory bandwidth of the V100. So it's really hard to hit 100TF. Even in our Titan V preview where we ran a pure CUDA-based GEMM benchmark, we only hit 97 TFLOPS. Meanwhile real-world use cases are going to be lower still, as you can only achieve those kinds of high numbers in pure tensor core compute workloads.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12170/nvidia-titan-...
Nate Oh - Tuesday, July 3, 2018 - link
To add on to Ryan's comment, 100+ TF is best-case (i.e. synthetic) performance based on peak FMA ops on individual matrix elements, which only comes about when everything perfectly qualifies for tensor core acceleration, no memory bottleneck by reusing tons of register data, etc.remedo - Tuesday, July 3, 2018 - link
Nate, I hope you could have included more TensorFlow/Keras specific benchmarks, given that the majority of deep learning researchers/developers are now using TensorFlow. Just compare the GitHub stats of TensorFlow vs. other frameworks. Therefore, I feel that this article missed some critical benchmarks in that regard. Still, this is a fascinating article, and thank you for your work. I understand that Anandtech is still new to deep learning benchmarks compared to your decades of experience in CPU/Gaming benchmark. If possible, please do a future update!Nate Oh - Tuesday, July 3, 2018 - link
Several TensorFlow benchmarks did not make the cut for today :) We were very much interested in using it, because amongst other things it offers global environmental variables to govern tensor core math, and integrates somewhat directly with TensorRT. However, we've been having issues finding and using one that does all the things we need it to do (and also offers different results than just pure throughput), and I've gone so far as trying to rebuild various models/implementations directly in Python (obviously to no avail, as I am ultimately not an ML developer).According to people smarter than me (i.e. Chintala, and I'm sure many others), if it's only utilizing standard cuDNN operations then frameworks should perform about the same; if there are significant differences, a la the inaugural version of Deep Learning Frameworks Comparison, it is because it is poorly optimized for TensorFlow or whatever given framework. From a purely GPU performance perspective, usage of different frameworks often comes down to framework-specific optimization, and not all reference implementations or benchmark suite tests do what we need it to do out-of-the-box (not to mention third-party implementations). Analyzing the level of TF optimization is developer-level work, and that's beyond the scope of the article. But once benchmark suites hit their stride, that will resolve that issue for us.
For Keras, I wasn't able to find anything that was reasonably usable by a non-developer, though I could've easily missed something (I'm aware of how it relates to TF, Theano, MXNet, etc). I'm sure that if we replaced PyTorch with Tensorflow implementations, we would get questions on 'Where's PyTorch?' :)
Not to say your point isn't valid, it is :) We're going to keep on looking into it, rest assured.
SirPerro - Thursday, July 5, 2018 - link
Keras has some nice examples in its github repo to be run with the tensorflow backend but for the sake of benchmarking it does not offer anything that it's not covered by the pure tensorflow examples, I guessBurntMyBacon - Tuesday, July 3, 2018 - link
I believe the GTX Titan with memory clock 6Gbps and memory bus width of 384 bits should have a memory bandwidth of 288GB/sec rather than the list 228GB/sec. Putting that aside, this is a nice review.Nate Oh - Tuesday, July 3, 2018 - link
Thanks, fixedJon Tseng - Tuesday, July 3, 2018 - link
Don't be silly. All we care about is whether it can run Crysis at 8K.