If Apple does move to ARM (in a few years and only for lower powered models) the Y CPUs are the first to take the hit. There are very few ultraportables so successful to justify Intel's continued research in this. They already go out of mobile for the same reason, it's likely that in the future they will get out of the (ultra?) low power parts (under 10W).
yeah that's what i was thinking... is there any news on the release date for these? I've just seen rumours of "late 2018", so I can only assume december...
yeah i realised after i posted but still. i know the U series are being used in ultra lights... but they still arent as ultra light as Y's.... all the U based ultrabooks start at 1.4KG and have cpu fans, my core Y ultrabook is 1KG and has no fans... oh well, will just have to keep waiting...
My Acer Switch Alpha 12 uses an i5-6200u, weighs 1.28 kg and is passively cooled. There's a few ultrabooks/tablets/2 in 1's that use u-series processors and no fans, but yeah they are rare. Personally I'd rather have a U processor for the added unmph...the 4.5w Y's will struggle to do much more than surf the web. Even high resolution video decoding can push past a Y processor's limits.
The Y segment is probably better served by much cheaper Atoms. I've run video transcodes on an Atom Windows tablet and it barely gets warm. I'd rather have decent sustained performance instead of a burst of speed that crashes hard from thermal limits.
It's not even the products exactly that disappoint. The marketing is so bad....
Just make it simple like Ryzen. No i5+, i5 means 6 core, 4 core hyper... I build computers all the time and I just feel tired reading that slide deck. Why should I memorize all that. Who cares...
When you buy Ryzen, you just buy the number of cores you want. Ignore everything else.
The reason why Ryzen 5 1400 is a "5" is because if they called it a "3", that wouldn't make sense as it is about the same as an i7-7700. I think the Ryzen "5" confusion is a response to Intel's marketing more than anything else.
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close - Wednesday, April 4, 2018 - link
If Apple does move to ARM (in a few years and only for lower powered models) the Y CPUs are the first to take the hit. There are very few ultraportables so successful to justify Intel's continued research in this. They already go out of mobile for the same reason, it's likely that in the future they will get out of the (ultra?) low power parts (under 10W).Sonic01 - Friday, April 6, 2018 - link
yeah that's what i was thinking... is there any news on the release date for these? I've just seen rumours of "late 2018", so I can only assume december...HStewart - Wednesday, April 4, 2018 - link
Actually an year and half since Q3 2016 - but it looks like 8th gen u series can be used in ultra lightsSonic01 - Friday, April 6, 2018 - link
yeah i realised after i posted but still. i know the U series are being used in ultra lights... but they still arent as ultra light as Y's.... all the U based ultrabooks start at 1.4KG and have cpu fans, my core Y ultrabook is 1KG and has no fans... oh well, will just have to keep waiting...Kakti - Sunday, April 8, 2018 - link
My Acer Switch Alpha 12 uses an i5-6200u, weighs 1.28 kg and is passively cooled. There's a few ultrabooks/tablets/2 in 1's that use u-series processors and no fans, but yeah they are rare. Personally I'd rather have a U processor for the added unmph...the 4.5w Y's will struggle to do much more than surf the web. Even high resolution video decoding can push past a Y processor's limits.serendip - Tuesday, April 10, 2018 - link
The Y segment is probably better served by much cheaper Atoms. I've run video transcodes on an Atom Windows tablet and it barely gets warm. I'd rather have decent sustained performance instead of a burst of speed that crashes hard from thermal limits.Alistair - Tuesday, April 3, 2018 - link
It's not even the products exactly that disappoint. The marketing is so bad....Just make it simple like Ryzen. No i5+, i5 means 6 core, 4 core hyper... I build computers all the time and I just feel tired reading that slide deck. Why should I memorize all that. Who cares...
satai - Tuesday, April 3, 2018 - link
AMD Ryzen 7 2700U - 4C/8TAMD Ryzen 7 1700(X) - 8C/16T
AMD Ryzen 7 2700(?) - probably 8C/16T
(Intel segmenting is a mess when considering features (ECC, management...) but why to bash them for C/T thread count that is pretty reasonable?)
Ratman6161 - Tuesday, April 3, 2018 - link
Also Ryzen 5 even in the desktop line has some 4C and some 6C that are all Ryzen 5Alistair - Tuesday, April 3, 2018 - link
When you buy Ryzen, you just buy the number of cores you want. Ignore everything else.The reason why Ryzen 5 1400 is a "5" is because if they called it a "3", that wouldn't make sense as it is about the same as an i7-7700. I think the Ryzen "5" confusion is a response to Intel's marketing more than anything else.