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  • serendip - Tuesday, April 10, 2018 - link

    The Y segment is probably better served by much cheaper Atoms. I've run video transcodes on an Atom Windows tablet and it barely gets warm. I'd rather have decent sustained performance instead of a burst of speed that crashes hard from thermal limits. Reply
  • Alistair - Tuesday, April 3, 2018 - link

    It's not even the products exactly that disappoint. The marketing is so bad....

    Just make it simple like Ryzen. No i5+, i5 means 6 core, 4 core hyper... I build computers all the time and I just feel tired reading that slide deck. Why should I memorize all that. Who cares...
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  • satai - Tuesday, April 3, 2018 - link

    AMD Ryzen 7 2700U - 4C/8T
    AMD Ryzen 7 1700(X) - 8C/16T
    AMD Ryzen 7 2700(?) - probably 8C/16T

    (Intel segmenting is a mess when considering features (ECC, management...) but why to bash them for C/T thread count that is pretty reasonable?)
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  • Ratman6161 - Tuesday, April 3, 2018 - link

    Also Ryzen 5 even in the desktop line has some 4C and some 6C that are all Ryzen 5 Reply
  • Alistair - Tuesday, April 3, 2018 - link

    When you buy Ryzen, you just buy the number of cores you want. Ignore everything else.

    The reason why Ryzen 5 1400 is a "5" is because if they called it a "3", that wouldn't make sense as it is about the same as an i7-7700. I think the Ryzen "5" confusion is a response to Intel's marketing more than anything else.
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  • satai - Wednesday, April 4, 2018 - link

    When you buy Core, you just buy the number of cores you want. Ignore everything else (unless you have some niche needs such as ECC). Reply
  • close - Wednesday, April 4, 2018 - link

    @satai, stop being a shill. You already use some arguments that don't make sense (like insisting that everybody who buys a laptop knows the TDP of the CPU and can make the difference for performance based on that - which is asinine but here you are claiming it).

    Intel has been muddying the waters when it comes to branding for at least a decade. Dozens of SKUs meant only to confuse even people with more than basic knowledge. Mixed model numbers and random feature allocation that even this article confirms. Unless you walk around with the slide deck or learned the ARK website by heart you'll never know what model does what and what the numbering represents.

    The Ryzen naming scheme is pretty clear and understandable at least by comparison. And while it could create some confusion between mobile and desktop specs, that's minor. There's a very solid overlap in corecount between mobile and desktop (like 4/4 and 4/8 models in the in the 3 and 5 ranges).

    And I'm pretty sure it was done simply because it's the only way to fight a company that sold you the same crappy advancements YoY for a boatload of money. If even AT kicks Intel to the curb you know that whoever is defending them is either paid to do it or needs some adult supervision.
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  • satai - Wednesday, April 4, 2018 - link

    "nsisting that everybody who buys a laptop knows the TDP of the CPU"
    I don't say or think such a thing.

    "Dozens of SKUs meant only to confuse even people with more than basic knowledge"
    google with site:ark.intel.com
    If you are not able o do this...

    "The Ryzen naming scheme is pretty clear and understandable at least by comparison. "
    Partly because AMD competes only in some segments...

    "There's a very solid overlap in corecount between mobile and desktop (like 4/4 and 4/8 models in the in the 3 and 5 ranges)."

    So you need to have apriori knowledge that this is about 5 and 3 and not for 7 anyway...
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  • ToTTenTranz - Tuesday, April 3, 2018 - link

    This update seems to put Microsoft in an awkward position for their high-end Surface Pro.

    They've been using the 15W Iris Pro part for high-end for quite a while. All of a sudden Intel only has 28W parts with Iris Pro. A visit to the ark website tells us all these Iris Pro 655 models only have a cTDP down to 20W, which is may not be nearly enough for Surface Pro's cooling system.

    One would think the Ryzen 2700U would be the perfect replacement candidate for Microsoft, but the lack of LPDDR support may prove "mortal" for tablets, as we're yet to see a single 12" tablet with detachable keyboard based off AMD's 15W offerings.

    But most of all why the hell are all these new sub-35W APU offerings not coming with LPDDR4 support? Looks like such a waste..
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  • Gunbuster - Tuesday, April 3, 2018 - link

    You make it sound like MS is not already in an awkward position on Surface after hitting a brick wall trying to get into Enterprise business and having on average eight daily visitors to their brick and mortar stores. Reply

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