SPEC2006 - Full Results

The below chart might be a bit crowded but it it’s the only correct way to have a complete overview of the performance-power-efficiency triad of measurement metrics. The left axis dataset scales based on efficiency (Subtest total energy in joules / subtest SPECspeed score) and also includes the average active power usage (Watts) over the duration of the test. Here the shorter the bars the better the efficiency, while average power being a secondary metric but still should be below a certain value and well within the thermal envelope of a device. The right axis scales simply with the estimated SPECspeed score of the given test, the longer the bar the better the performance.

While the article is focused around the Kirin 970 improvements this is an invaluable opportunity to look back and the two last generations of devices from Qualcomm and Samsung. There is an immediate striking difference in the efficiency of the Snapdragon 820 and Snapdragon 835 across almost all subtests. The comparison between the Exynos 8890 and Snapdragon 820 variants of the S7 was an interesting debate at the time and we came to the conclusion the Exynos 8890 variant was the better unit as it offered longer battery life at higher performance. We see this represented in this dataset as well as the Exynos 8890 manages to have a measurable performance lead in a variety of tests while having higher energy efficiency, albeit a higher power envelope.

2017’s Galaxy S8 reversed this position as the Snapdragon 835 was clearly the better performing unit while having a slight battery life advantage. This efficiency delta can again be seen here as well as the Exynos 8895 isn’t able to compete with the lower power consumption of the Snapdragon 835, even though the performance differences between the Exynos M2 and Cortex A73 are a lot more of a wash than the previous generation’s battle between Exynos M1 and Kryo CPUs.

Switching over to the Kirin SoCs I included as far back as the Kirin 955 with the Cortex A72 as it was a very successful piece of silicon that definitely helped Huawei’s device portfolio for 2016. Remembering our coverage of the Cortex A73 microarchitecture we saw a lot of emphasis from ARM on the core’s floating point and memory subsystem performance. These claims can be easily confirmed when looking at the massive IPC gains in the memory access sensitive tests. When it comes to pure integer execution throughput the A72’s three-wide decoder as expected still managed to outpace the 2-wide unit on the A73 as seen in the 445.gobmk and 456.hmmer subtests.

The Kirin 960 was not able to always demonstrate ARM’s A73’s efficiency gains as again the more execution bound tests the Kirin 955 was equal or slightly more efficient. But again thanks to the new memory subsystem the A73 is able to well distance itself from the A72 with massive gains in 429.mcf, 433.milc, 450.soplex and 482.sphinx3. Again the power figures here are total platform active power so it’s also very possible that the Kirin 960’s memory controller could have a hefty part in the generational improvement.

The Kirin 970 doesn’t change the CPU IP, however we see the introduction of LPDDR4X on the memory controller side which will improve I/O power to the DRAM by lowering the voltage from 1.1V down to 0.6V. While performance should be the same power efficiency should thus be higher by the promised 20% that HiSilicon quotes from the switch to the TSMC 10nm process, plus some percentage due to LPDDR4X.

Performance indeed is within spitting distance of the Kirin 960, however it managed to be a few percentage points slower. On the power efficiency side we see large gains averaging up to 30% across the board. It looks that HiSilicon decided to invest all the process improvement into lowering overall power as the Kirin 970 manages to shave off a whole watt from the Kirin 960 both in integer and floating point benchmarks.

An interesting comparison here is the duel between the Snapdragon 835 and Kirin 970 – both A73 CPUs running at almost identical clocks, one manufactured on Samsung’s 10LPE process and the other on TSMC’s 10FF process. Again by making use of the various workload types we can extract information on the CPU and the memory sub-system. In 445.gobmk and 456.hmmer we see the Kirin have a very slight efficiency advantage at almost identical performance. This could be used as an indicator that TSMC’s process has a power advantage over Samsung’s process, something not too hard to imagine as the latter silicon was brought to market over half a year later.

When we however take a look at more memory bound tests we see the Snapdragon 835 overtake the Kirin 970 by ~20%. The biggest difference is in 429.mcf which is by far the most demanding memory test, and we see the Snapdragon 835 ahead by 32% in performance and a larger amount in efficiency. We can thus strongly assume that between the K970 and S835, Qualcomm has better and more efficient memory controller and subsystem implementation.

The memory subsystem generally seems to be the weak point of Samsung’s Exynos 8895. The M2 core remains competitive in execution bound tests however quickly falls behind in anything more memory demanding. The odd thing here is that I’m not sure if the reason here is memory controller inefficiency but rather something more related to the un-core of the M2 cluster. Firing up even integer power-viruses always have an enormous 1-core power overhead compared to the incremental power cost of additional threads on the remaining 3 cores. A hypothesis here is that given Samsung’s new Exynos 9810 makes use of a completely new cache hierarchy (all but confirmed a DynamiQ cluster) that the existing implementation in the M1 and M2 cores just didn’t see as much attention and design effort compared to the CPU core itself. Using a new efficient cluster design and continuing on improving the core might be how Samsung has managed to find a way (Gaining power and efficiency headroom) to double single-threaded performance in the Exynos 9810.

When overviewing IPC for SPEC2006, we see the Kirin 960 and Snapdragon 835 neck in neck, with the Kirin 970 being just slightly slower due to memory differences. The Exynos 8895 shows a 25% IPC uplift in CINT2006 and 21% uplift in CFP2006 whilst leading the A73 in overall IPC by a slight 3%.

The Snapdragon 820 still has good showing in terms of floating point performance thanks to Kryo’s four main “fat” execution pipelines can all handle integer as well as floating point operations. This theoretically should allow the core to have far more floating point execution power than ARM and Samsung’s cores, and is the explanation as to why 470.lbm sees such massive performance advantages on Kryo and brings up the overall IPC score.

The Final Overview

For a final overview of performance and efficiency we get to a mixed bag. If solely looking at the right axis with overall SPECspeed estimated results of CINT2006 and CFP2006, we see that performance hasn’t really moved much, if at all, over the last 2 generations. The Kirin 970 is a mere 10% faster than the Kirin 955 in CINT, over 2 years later. CFP sees larger gains over the A72 but again we come back to a small performance regression compared to the Kirin 960. If one would leave it at that then it’s understandable to raise the question as to what exactly is happening with Android SoC performance advancements.

For the most part, we’ve seen efficiency go up significantly in 2017. The Snapdragon 835 was a gigantic leap over the Snapdragon 820, doubling efficiency at a higher performance point in CINT and managing a 50% efficiency increase in CFP. The Exynos 8895 and Kirin 970 both managed to increase efficiency by 55% in CINT and the latter showed the same improvements in CFP.

This year’s SoCs have also seen a large decrease in average power usage. This bodes well for thermal throttling and flow low thermal envelope devices, as ARM had touted at the launch of the A73. The upcoming Snapdragon 845 and A75 cores promise no efficiency gains over the A73, so the improved performance comes with linear increase in power usage.

I’m also not too sure about Samsung’s Exynos 9810 claiming such large performance jumps and just hope that those peak 2.9GHz clocks don’t come with outrageous power figures just for the sake of benchmark battling with Apple. The Exynos’ 8890 2-core boost feature was in my opinion senseless as the performance benefit of the additional 300MHz was not worth the efficiency penalty (The above results were run at the full 2.6GHz, 2.3GHz is only 10% slower but 25% more efficient) and the whole thing probably had more to do with matching the Snapdragon 820’s scores in the flawed GeekBench 3.

I’m not too sure how to feel about that as I think the current TDPs of the Snapdragon 835 and Kirin 970 (in CPU workloads) are sweet spots that the industry should maintain as it just gives a better mobile experience to the average user, so I do really hope the Snapdragon 845 offers some tangible process improvements to counter-act the micro-architectural power increase as well as clock increases otherwise we’ll see power shooting up again above 2W. 

SPEC2006 - A Reintroduction For Mobile GPU Performance & Power
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  • HStewart - Monday, January 22, 2018 - link

    One thing I would not mind Windows for ARM - if had the following

    1. Cheaper than current products - 300-400 range
    2. No need for x86 emulation - not need on such product - it would be good for Microsoft Office, email and internet machine. But not PC apps
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  • StormyParis - Monday, January 22, 2018 - link

    But then why do you need WIndows to do that ? Android iOS and CHromme already do it, with a lot more other apps. Reply
  • PeachNCream - Monday, January 22, 2018 - link

    It's too early in the Win10 on ARM product life cycle to call the entire thing a failure. I agree that it's possible we'll be calling it failed eventually, but the problems aren't solely limited to the CPU of choice. Right now, Win10 ARM platforms are priced too high (personal opinion) and _might_ be too slow doing the behind-the-scenes magic necessary to run x86 applications. Offering a lot more battery life, which Win10 on ARM does, isn't enough of a selling point to entirely offset the pricing and limitations. While I'd like to get 22 hours of battery life doing useful work with wireless active out of my laptops, it's more off mains time than I can realistically use in a day so I'm okay with a lower priced system with shorter life (~5 hours) since I use my phone for multi-day, super light computing tasks already. That doesn't mean everyone feels that way so let's wait and see before getting out the hammer and nails for that coffin. Reply
  • jjj - Monday, January 22, 2018 - link

    The CPU is the reason for the high price, SD835 comes at a high premium and LTE adds to it.
    That's why those machines are not competitive in price with Atom based machines.
    Use a 25$ SoC and no LTE and Windows on ARM becomes viable with an even longer battery life.
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  • PeachNCream - Monday, January 22, 2018 - link

    I didn't realize the 835 accounted for so much of the BOM on those ARM laptops. Since Intel's tray pricing for their low end chips isn't exactly cheap (not factoring in OEM/volume discounts), it didn't strike me as a significant hurdle. I'd thought most of the price as due to low production volume and attempts to make the first generation's build quality attractive enough to have a ripple effect on subsequently cheaper models. Reply
  • tuxRoller - Monday, January 22, 2018 - link

    I'm not sure they do.
    A search indicated that in 2014 the average price of a Qualcomm solution for a platform was $24. The speculation was that the high-end socs were sold in the high $30s to low $40s.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fool.com/amp/inve...
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  • jjj - Monday, January 22, 2018 - link

    It's likely more like 50-60$ for the hardware and 15$ for licensing for a 700$ laptop- although that includes only licenses to Qualcomm and they are not the only ones getting payed.
    Even a very optimistic estimate can't go lower than 70$ total and that's a large premium vs my suggestion of a 25$ SoC with no LTE.
    An 8 cores A53 might go below 10$, something like Helio X20 was around 20$ at it's time, one would assume that SD670 will be 25-35$, depending on how competitive Mediatek is with P70.
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  • jjj - Monday, January 22, 2018 - link

    Some estimates will go much higher though (look at LTE enabling components too ,not just SoC for the S8). http://www.techinsights.com/about-techinsights/ove...
    Don't think costs are quite that high but they are supposed to know better.
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  • tuxRoller - Monday, January 22, 2018 - link

    That's way higher than I've seen.

    http://mms.businesswire.com/media/20170420006675/e...

    Now, that's for the exynos 8895, but is imagine prices are similar for Snapdragon.
    Regardless, these are all estimates. I'm not aware of anyone who actually knows the real prices of these (including licenses) we has come out and told us.
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  • jjj - Monday, January 22, 2018 - link

    On licensing you can take a look at the newest 2 pdfs here https://www.qualcomm.com/invention/licensing.
    Those are in line with the China agreement they have at 3.5% and 5% out of 65% of the retail value. There would be likely discounts for exclusivity and so on. So ,assuming multinode, licensing would be 22.75$ for a 700$ laptop, before any discounts (if any) BUT that's only to Qualcomm and not others like Nokia, Huawei, Samsung, Ericsson and whoever else might try to milk this.

    As for SoC, here's IHS for a SD835 phone https://technology.ihs.com/584911/google-pixel-xl-...
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