This morning at the Qualcomm Snapdragon Summit in Hawaii, Microsoft’s EVP of Windows and Devices, Terry Myerson, is announcing the introduction of the first Windows 10 PCs to be powered by Qualcomm Snapdragon processors. It was almost a year ago to the day that the company first announced their partnership with Qualcomm, which would bring ARM support to Windows 10, but with x86 emulation, allowing all existing applications to work as well. The first PCs will be the ASUS NovaGo, which is a convertible laptop, and the HP ENVY x2 convertible tablet.

The ASUS NovaGo Laptop

This is exciting news on a couple of fronts. The Qualcomm Snapdragon 835, which was the processor first announced for Windows 10 on ARM, offers reasonable performance, but with lower power consumption than what we’ve been used to in the PC space, and especially in low-power states. Without having the devices in-hand, we still don’t know how the SD835 compares in performance to the competition. We should finally be able to answer that soon though.

The HP ENVY x2 Tablet

One of the key pieces of using a mobile SoC in a PC is the extra integration. Smartphones don’t have room for large circuit boards, while still providing room for all of the other equipment and batteries required, and mobile SoCs offer a lot more features integrated into the SoC than what a typical PC would, which allows for substantial board space savings over the competition. Back at Computex, Qualcomm was showing off the SD835 PC board compared to a competing 14nm Intel board, and the space savings were up to 30%. This allows smaller, thinner, and lighter devices, but with more battery capacity.

One of the major integrations with the SD835 compared to PC SoCs is the integrated cellular connectivity, which is one of the features that Microsoft is championing the most with this new partnership. There have been PCs with cellular cards added on for some time, but Qualcomm’s cellular tech is aimed at mobile, where always-on connectivity, and low-power usage, is a requirement. That same connectivity will be available on the PC as well, with an always-connected network connection providing a better user experience than what we’ve become accustomed to in the laptop world.

Battery life should also be a big win, and while we don’t have our own tests done yet, Microsoft’s information is claiming up to 30 days of standby and up to 22 hours of active use, while the detachable tablet-style HP ENVY x2 is claiming up to 20 hours of active use. That’s impressive, and blows past the all-day battery life that we’ve come to expect in a laptop, and should free a device up for a couple of days of use before charging. Terry Myerson has stated that he’s been getting up to a week of use out of a device before he needs to charge it.

The always-on nature of mobile brings other advantages too. The PCs will wake up instantly, just like you’d expect on your phone, or mobile tablet.

The ARM equipped devices will be running full Windows 10, so no desktop apps are left behind, unlike the previous time that Microsoft attempted this. The ARM chips at the time offered much less performance as well, so this time around, it should be a much better experience. Universal Windows Apps will be available compiled for ARM directly, but x86 apps will run in emulation, which is still a cause for concern for both performance and battery life, so we’ll have to see how that pans out. Microsoft has an “optimized” version of Office 365 for the new ARM powered PCs, which likely means it’s been recompiled for native performance.

Perhaps the most exciting part of the announcement is what added competition in this space should bring to the end-user. We have Qualcomm coming to the PC from the mobile space, where low-power has always been key, but the performance has been improving steadily, and we have Intel and AMD on the other side, coming from a high-performance but higher-power world, where integration of components into the SoC hasn’t been as high of a priority. It’ll be interesting to see where the convergence happens in the coming months.

Source: Microsoft

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  • ikjadoon - Tuesday, December 05, 2017 - link

    It's not dog slow on x86. At all. Y'all have not taken the five minutes to research anything before posting:

    https://images.idgesg.net/images/article/2017/12/p...

    Read a little. Google. Bing. Yahoo. Ya got lots of opportunities. I think it's actually going to do incredibly well in the consumer space; people have been begging for longer battery life for ages and this is a noticeable increase.

    The battery life of a Chromebook, but running Windows 10 x86.
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  • Gunbuster - Tuesday, December 05, 2017 - link

    Yeah ok you linkout to an image showing it performing dog slow. Installing real apps people use like VLC double the time of the mystery competitor. Count to 10, that's already slow, now double it. No one is going to be happy with that performance, heck no one is happy with Atom. Reply
  • ikjadoon - Tuesday, December 05, 2017 - link

    LMAO. You ignored 95% of what a user spends their time doing (oh, because those benchmarks were quite good for Qualcomm, right?) and concentrated on this arduous, almost hourly task, of having to install programs.

    Thanks for the chat, kid.
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  • Gunbuster - Tuesday, December 05, 2017 - link

    The install tasks like every other week a long ass windows update/rollup/patch? How about a benchmark of a big update like creators update update. One like that will probably take two hours. Reply
  • ikjadoon - Tuesday, December 05, 2017 - link

    ...you're grasping at straws. The benches clearly show slower installs and so probably Windows updates, too (but I'm curious if the installs are just because of compiling the ARM-native code from the x86 code).

    But...who cares how long a Windows update takes? Run it at night, like Windows automatically schedules.
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  • Gunbuster - Tuesday, December 05, 2017 - link

    grasping? you're the one running from one post to another on the Microsoft white knight pony. Well gold star to you sir defense-a-lot. Reply
  • ikjadoon - Wednesday, December 06, 2017 - link

    😂 Mate, lots of people to fact check. How can “Anandtech commenters” be so ill-informed? I’ve never seen such a huge divide between the level of the writers and the level of the commenters. Do you all...understand or even finish reading Anandtech’s longer deep dives? If you all read the SD835 Arch. Review, you’d think you would have wholly understood these by now.

    White knight? Please. Microsoft is inane more years than not this past decade. Squandered mindshare and opportunity.

    But you all presume nothing has been done for emulation. It’s...almost as if you’ve never read the articles yet. 😂
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  • jjj - Tuesday, December 05, 2017 - link

    Now they got to cut prices in half and they got viable products. Reply
  • ikjadoon - Wednesday, December 06, 2017 - link

    I don’t think so. How many hardware compromises are there in $250 to $400 systems? Way too many. TN screens. Lousy trackpads. Creaky build quality.

    These are viable as long-battery life x86 notebooks that aren’t thick nor unsightly and check most day-to-day tasks. They’re worth the price if you care about “everything else but the internals”—but I wish they had been SD845. Maybe we’ll get some SD845 systems today?
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  • rocky12345 - Tuesday, December 05, 2017 - link

    Yea I am not looking forward to these devices at all. It was bad enough back in the day to have all of those non worthy Atom net books every where which were so under powered that it was a pain to use them. Then they decided oh lets make them dual and quad cores and sell them in full sized laptops and desktops. Ok so they had a bit more power but were still pretty much useless for more than internet surfing.

    Now they want to take basically a mobile ARM platform and run a full version of Windows 10 on it and have x86 emulation. This will most likely be just as slow and useless as the past attempts to use very lower power chips in a modern & full blown OS like windows. Then if it does not sell well MS will do what it always does and just drop the platform leaving everyone that bought into it high & dry. I work on computers for a living and I do not look forward to subjecting myself to these types of systems when they break down.
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