Conclusions on Ryzen DDR4 Scaling

It is pretty clear to see that Ryzen can be fairly dependant on memory frequency, but it depends very much on the sort of test and the nature of the workload on memory accesses. On the benchmarks where it matters, our memory kit was above to push performance up and over 20%, although despite the few benchmarks where this happened, it was outnumbered by benchmarks that had zero or a very minor effect. Some gaming titles had up to a 5-10% difference in average frame rates, but others had zero change.

To Infinity and Beyond

Determing the sweet spot for Ryzen from our small batch of testing is not so straightforward. From our quick testing, it would seem to suggest that there are performance gains to be had, with slow progress as the data rate increases. A few benchmarks seemed to hit the performance inflextion point around the DDR4-2933/3066 boundary - or basically where the Team Group Night Hawk RGB DDR4-3000 memory kit is positioned.

Aside from the fact of having fasting memory, the speed directly adjusts the potential in AMD’s Infinity Fabric. The IF is AMD's new scalable interconnect found in the Zen CPUs, Vega GPUs, and likely the next few generations of products. Infinity Fabric connects and manages the data flow from each of the cores to each other, as well as to the additional controllers on board. But the effect of faster DRAM and faster IF, on paper, should be a mutually beneficial improvement, and one would take a reasonable guess that AMD will aim to increase both as new generations of products come to market. 

Final Thoughts

Depending on how the results are digested, and how the software can effectively use the new AMD Zen microarchitecture, a relatively decent set of DDR4-3000 (or there abouts) memory seems to be a good inflection point for users that want to invest in faster memory. Obviously using tighter sub-timimgs should help as well, which we'll likely explore in a separate review.

The Team Group Night Hawk RGB memory has served our testing needs well out of the box and it seems like a very reasonable purchase for Ryzen users looking to add a high-performance memory kit. Unfortunately there is no guarantee in the quality of the ICs on board, with Team Group stating that the type of ICs could change over the life time of the product - this will mean that the overclocking capabilities may change depending on the ICs. The memory kit we used in this testing is currently available from Newegg for $173 with a white heatspreader, or $156 with a black heatspreader. Interestingly the black version running at a faster DDR4-3200 is listed at a cheaper $164, but is currently out of stock. 

DRAM Price Comparison: 2x8GB DDR4-3000 with RGB (9/27)
  Black Headspreader White Heatspreader
Team Group
Night Hawk RGB
$156 (Newegg)
CL16-18-18
$173 (Newegg)
CL16-18-18
Corsair
Vengeance RGB
$160 (Amazon)
CL15-17-17
$180 (Newegg)
CL15-17-17
G.Skill
Trident Z RGB
$186 (Newegg)
CL15-16-16
 
GeIL
Super Luce RGB
- $160 (Newegg)
CL16-18-18
ADATA
XPG Spectrix RGB
$180 (Amazon)
CL16-18-18
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For other RGB-based kits running 2x8 GB at DDR4-3000 with white heatsinks, Corsair's Vengeance RGB are $180 in white or $160 in black, with GeIL's Super Luce in black also at $160. By comparison, ADATA and G.Skill offer similar kits but in black, both at the $180 price point. 

Testing and Analysis by Gavin Bonshor
Additional Commentary by Ian Cutress

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  • notashill - Wednesday, September 27, 2017 - link

    There's a new AGESA 1.0.0.6b but AMD has said very little about what changed in it.
  • JocPro - Wednesday, September 27, 2017 - link

    According to page 3, how come 2933 MT/s (67 MT/s apart of the rated bandwidth) is *nearest* to the kit's rating, if 3066 MT/s is just 66 MT/s apart of the kit's rating?
  • DanNeely - Wednesday, September 27, 2017 - link

    Because rounding. They're 2933.33333.... and 3066.66666..... Both are 66.6666.... off and XMP (which is how the DIMM maker specifies what to do) rounds to the lower one not the higher one.
  • DanNeely - Wednesday, September 27, 2017 - link

    In theory anyway. In practice manufacturing variance (not sure if CPU or mobo) means the step size won't be exactly 133.3333.... but rather slightly higher or lower than that value.
  • FreckledTrout - Wednesday, September 27, 2017 - link

    For those prices I would rather pick up G Skill Flare x running at 3200Mhz and CAS14 ($190 on newegg).
  • qlum - Wednesday, September 27, 2017 - link

    While it is an older lgame it would have been interesting to see fallout 4 included here as it is notorious for its memory scaling
  • Outlander_04 - Wednesday, September 27, 2017 - link

    I am curious about the use of such an old graphics card. Surely an nVidia 10xx card, or RX vega was available
  • Lolimaster - Wednesday, September 27, 2017 - link

    Come one, people are running 3200 CL14 on Ryzen for many months, why test with a puny CL16.

    This should also include DDR4 3600-4000 with many brands.
  • Nagorak - Thursday, September 28, 2017 - link

    Few have even managed to get 3600 MHz stable with Ryzen, let alone anything more than that. Even 3466 isn't a given for many boards/processors.
  • CheapSushi - Thursday, September 28, 2017 - link

    I think it is time for RAM to go the QDR route (quad data rate) instead for upcoming DDR5. It's already proven and workable in SRAM and GDDR5X (it's QDR despite the name. This would be a MUCH more significant improvement in latency and I/O than the paltry MHz bump DDR5 will do. I think AMD's Zen architecture would benefit and go even further with QDR for next gen.

    Image of QDR vs DDR: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thu...

    Image of QDR vs DDR: http://image.slideserve.com/1303208/qdr-class-vs-d...

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