The Newcomers

As we briefly mentioned, there are three new products to talk about today – the Radeon 9800 XT, the Radeon 9600 XT and then NVIDIA’s NV38.

The XT line of Radeon 9x00 cards is specifically targeted at the very high end of the gaming market. With AMD and their Athlon 64 FX, Intel and the Pentium 4 Extreme Edition, it’s not too surprising to see even more companies going this direction. With an ultra-premium part like the Radeon 9800 XT the profit margins are high and more importantly, the PR opportunities are huge – claiming the title of world’s fastest desktop GPU never hurts.

The effort required to produce a part like the Radeon 9800 XT is much lower than a serious redesign. When making any kind of chip (CPU, GPU, chipset, etc…) the design team is usually given a cutoff point where they cannot make any more changes to the design, and that is the design that will go into production. However, it is very rare that manufacturers get things right on the first try. Process improvements and optimizing of critical paths within a microprocessor are both time intensive tasks that require a good deal of experience.

Once ATI’s engineers had more experience with the R350 core and more time with it they began to see where the limitations of the GPU’s clock speed existed; remember that your processor can only run as fast as its slowest speed path so it makes a great deal of sense to change the layout and optimize the use of transistors, etc… to speed up the slow paths within your GPU. This oversimplified process is what ATI and their foundry engineers have been working on and the results are encompassed in the R360 – the core of the Radeon 9800 XT.

The Radeon 9800 XT is able to run at a slightly higher core frequency of 412MHz, quite impressive for ATI’s 0.15-micron chip (yes, this is the same process that the original R300 was based on). Keep in mind that the Radeon 9800 Pro ran at 380MHz and you’ll see that this 8% increase in clock speed is beginning to reach the limits of what ATI can do at 0.15-micron.

The Radeon 9800 XT does receive a boost in memory speed as well, now boasting a 365MHz DDR memory clock (730MHz effective) – an increase of 7% over the original Radeon 9800 Pro and an increase of 4% over the 256MB 9800 Pro. ATI was much more proud of their core clock improvements as we will begin to crave faster GPU speeds once more shader intensive games come out.

The Radeon 9800 XT does have a thermal diode (mounted on-package but not on-die) that has a driver interface that will allow the card to automatically increase its core speed if the thermal conditions are suitable. The GPU will never drop below its advertised 412MHz clock speed, but it can reach speeds of up to 440MHz as far as we know. The important thing to note here is that ATI fully warrantees this overclocking support, an interesting move indeed. Obviously they only guarantee the overclock when it is performed automatically in the drivers, as they do not rate the chips for running at the overclocked speed in all conditions.

The OverDrive feature, as ATI likes to call it, will be enabled through the Catalyst 3.8 drivers and we’ll be sure to look into its functionality once the final drivers are made available.

The Radeon 9800 XT will be available in the next month or so and it will be sold in 256MB configurations at a price of $499 – most likely taking the place of the Radeon 9800 Pro 256MB.

Index The Radeon 9600XT & NV38
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  • Pete - Friday, October 3, 2003 - link

    Why should they test at a higher res when the fastest cards have trouble breaking 60fps on most of these benchmarks?!
  • Anonymous User - Thursday, October 2, 2003 - link

    Who the hell is playing games at 1024 x 768 these days?!!! Go higher and see how all ATI cards kick butt!!!!!!
  • Anonymous User - Thursday, October 2, 2003 - link

    Anand is testing a card that is not out, with drivers that are not released (52.xx) , on a CPU that is not available ????

    At least he could benchmark DX9, wich is available.
    Tomb Raider AOD.

    Maybe not, because Nvidia sucks at DX9,
    Maybe Nvidia had a clause( you get to test our new card and new (cheat) drivers, but you can not use any DX9 titles ???

    We all know Nvidia sucks at DX9, but it should be included in the tests.
    We all know Nvidia is good at UT and Quake, but you still had those games to the Bench suit ???

    I have been reading Anand for years, this is the first time I have been really deceived.!

    It is amazing what MONEY will make you do or say..



  • Anonymous User - Thursday, October 2, 2003 - link

    everyone can now rest peacefully not that bigshot has spoken! all hail the mighty bigshot and his useless rambling!!!

    we should all bow down to his infinite wisdom and wonderful use of childish phrases

  • Anonymous User - Thursday, October 2, 2003 - link

    #197, you mean the 9500 Pro, and it's not a third of the price, it's currently two thirds and was never less than a half.
  • Anonymous User - Thursday, October 2, 2003 - link

    I would've liked to see a Radeon 9500 and/or an OCSystems 9500 Radeon in the mix with these benchmarks. Even though the 9500 is discontinued it still performs on par with a 9700 card. Overclock it or flash new Bios onto it and it might perform right up with these cards; for a third of the price to.
  • Anonymous User - Thursday, October 2, 2003 - link

    I'd like to see my testicles running 2xAA. I have no doubt in my mind that ATi is even beter than Nvidia's best! I've noticed the lag on my genitals when playing multiplayer games, such as BF1952 & TF2. I personally cannot wait for Dx9.
    How about that HL2 source code leak? I have a good feelin about it. :-)
  • Anonymous User - Thursday, October 2, 2003 - link

    Sorry Bigshot here... I posted twice. I posted number #192 and number #193.

    I just wanted to say ATI Kicks NVida Butts!!!
  • Anonymous User - Thursday, October 2, 2003 - link

    Idiot!
  • Anonymous User - Thursday, October 2, 2003 - link

    Bigsot here again as I remembered what i forgot to say...

    The 2xAA of the ATI is even beter than nvidias best!

    ATI cards are the bestest!

    Nvidia card owners must be crying!

    Not me! Cause I got me an ATI!!!

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