Comparing Skylake-S and Skylake-X/SP Performance Clock-for-Clock

If you’ve read through the full review up to this point (and kudos), there should be three things that stick in the back of your mind about the new Skylake-SP cores: Cache, Mesh and AVX512. These are the three main features that separate the consumer grade Skylake-S core from this new core, and all three can have an impact in clock-for-clock performance. Even though the Skylake-S and the Skylake-SP are not competing in the same markets, it is still poignant to gather how much the changes affect the regular benchmark suite.

For this test, we took the Skylake-S based Core i5-6600 and the Skylake-SP based Core i9-7900X and ran them both with only 4 cores, no hyperthreading, and 3 GHz on all cores with no Turbo active. Both CPUs were run in high performance modes in the OS to restrict any time-to-idle, so it is worth noting here that we are not measuring power. This is just raw throughput.

Both of these cores support different DRAM frequencies, however: the i5-6600 lists DDR4-2133 as its maximum supported frequency, whereas the i9-7900X will run at DDR4-2400 at 2DPC. I queried a few colleagues as to what I should do here – technically the memory support is an extended element of the microarchitecture, and the caches/uncore/untile will be running at different frequencies, so how much of the system support should be chipped away for parity. The general consensus was to test with the supported frequencies, given this is how the parts ship.

For this analysis, each test was broken down in two ways: what sort of benchmark (single thread, multi-thread, mixed) and what category of benchmark (web, office, encode).

 

For the single threaded tests, results were generally positive. Kraken enjoyed the L2, and Dolphin emulation had a good gain as well. The legacy tests did not fair that great: 3DPM v1 has false sharing, which is likely taking a hit due to the increased L2 latency.

On the multithreaded tests, the big winner here was Corona. Corona is a high-performance renderer for Autodesk 3ds Max, showing that the larger L2 does a good job with its code base. The step back was in Handbrake – our testing does not implement any AVX512 code, but the L3 victim cache might be at play here over the L3 inclusive cache in SKL-S.

The mixed results are surprising: these tests vary with ST and MT parts to their computation, some being cache sensitive as well. The big outlier here is the compile test, indicating that the Skylake-SP might not be (clock for clock) a great compilation core. This is a result we can trace back to the L3 again, being a smaller non-inclusive cache. In our results database, we can see similar results when comparing a Ryzen 7 1700X, an 8-core 95W CPU with 16MB of L3 victim cache, is easily beaten by a Core i7-7700T, with 4 cores at 35W but has 8MB of inclusive L3 cache.

If we treat each of these tests with equal weighting, the overall result will offer a +0.5% gain to the new Skylake-SP core, which is with the margin of error. Nothing too much to be concerned about for most users (except perhaps people who compile all day), although again, these two cores are not in chips that directly compete. The 10-core SKL-SP chip still does the business on compiling:

Office: Chromium Compile (v56)

If all these changes (minus AVX512) offer a +0.5% gain over the standard Skylake-S core, then one question worth asking is what was the point? The answer is usually simple, and I suspect involves scaling (moving to chips with more cores), but also customer related. Intel’s big money comes from the enterprise, and no doubt some of Intel’s internal metrics (as well as customer requests) point to a sizeable chunk of enterprise compute being L2 size limited. I’ll be looking forward to Johan’s review on the enterprise side when the time comes.

Benchmarking Performance: CPU Legacy Tests Intel Skylake-X Core i9-7900X, i7-7820X and i7-7800X Conclusion
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  • Tuna-Fish - Tuesday, June 20, 2017 - link

    Just a tiny nitpick about the cache hierarchy table:

    TLBs are grouped with cache levels, that is, L1TLBs are with the L1 caches and the L2 TLB is with the L2 cache, as if the level of TLB is associated with the level of cache. This is not how they work -- any request only has to have it's address translated once, when it's loaded from the L1 cache. If there is a miss when accessing the L1 TLB, the L2 TLB is accessed before the L1 cache is.
  • PeterCordes - Monday, July 3, 2017 - link

    This common mistake bugs me too! The transistors for the TLB's 2nd level are probably not even near the L2 cache. (And the L2 cache is physically indexed / physically tagged, so it doesn't care about translations or virtual addresses at all). The multi-level TLB is a separate hierarchy from the normal caches.

    I also commented earlier to point out several other errors in [the uarch details](http://www.anandtech.com/comments/11550/the-intel-... e.g. mixing up the register-file sizes with the scheduler size.
  • yeeeeman - Tuesday, June 20, 2017 - link

    What this review shows just how good of a deal AMD Ryzen CPUs are. I mean, R7 1700 is like 300$ and it keeps up in many of the tests with the big boys from Intel.
  • Carmen00 - Tuesday, June 20, 2017 - link

    Small typo on the first page, Ian: "For $60 less than the price of the Core i7-7800X...". But the comparison shows $389 vs $299, which is a $90 difference. Otherwise a fantastic, in-depth review, thank you very much!
  • Ian Cutress - Tuesday, June 20, 2017 - link

    Official MSRPs haven't changed. What distributors do with their stock is a different story.
  • Carmen00 - Wednesday, June 21, 2017 - link

    I'm talking about the MSRPs. There's a table ("Comparison: Core i7-7800X vs. Ryzen 7 1700") on Page 1 with the MSRPs as $299 and $389, a $90 difference. The text just above this table says that there's a $60 difference, but 389-299=90, not 60. So either the text is incorrect, or the MSRPs in the table are incorrect.
  • Tephereth - Tuesday, June 20, 2017 - link

    Missing temps and in-game benchmarks... u're the only one in the whole web that has an 7800x to test, so please post those :(
  • Gothmoth - Tuesday, June 20, 2017 - link

    after reading a dozend reviews i say:

    great now we have the choice between two buggy platforms.... well done.
    i am not going to be a bios betatester for AMD or Intel.

    these two release are the worst in many years i would say.

    i hope AMD has threadripper ironed out.
  • AntDX316 - Tuesday, June 20, 2017 - link

    The new processors are in totally another level/league/class. It dominates in everything and more except a couple benches.
  • AnandTechReader2017 - Tuesday, June 20, 2017 - link

    Of course they are, Ryzen is mainstream, Thread Ripper is the competitor.
    Thread Ripper will be quite interesting, the scaling of the "infinity fabric" will come to the fore and show if AMD's new architecture is a worthy competitor.

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