New MacBook Pros are expected in October, though. Those would be Skylake unless Apple has plans to use the 4.5W chips TDP upped to 7W, which I highly doubt (maybe in an updated MacBook Air, but I doubt that the Air will get an update).
According to Paul Thurrott, Microsoft was not at all happy with the general bugginess of Skylake.
>while Intel has never formally confirmed this, my sources at Microsoft and elsewhere have told me that Skylake, the original “tock” release following Broadwell, was among the buggiest of chipsets that Intel has ever released. Problems with Skylake are at the heart of most of the issues that Microsoft has seen with its Surface Pro 4 and Surface Book devices, and it’s fair to say that the software giant now regrets delivering the very first Skylake-based devices into the market in late 2015.
As much as I dislike Apple's ways, sometimes they do things for a reason. Not sometimes, but EVERYTHING. With Apple, if you dont understand why they did something, it is highly likely you overlook rather then something they skip over.
Everyone does everything for a "reason". Most times than not, I don't like those reasons. I should have clarified; sometimes they do things for a *good* reason. Keyword here is "sometimes", IMO.
Interesting that it says that 4k resolution support is new on Skylake and also requires additional cooling, considering I have a tablet from Cube in China that is a Skylake Core M, fanless, and supports 4k over USB-C/DisplayPort Alternate Mode. Though then again, based on what I'm looking at in the UEFI settings, it doesn't appear like Cube followed any of Intel's guidelines either.
I'm a little confused by the below, can you clarify:
One of the disappointing aspects from Skylake that has still not been addressed in Kaby Lake-U/Y is the absence of a native HDMI 2.0 port with HDCP 2.2 support
My understanding was that retail solution releases of Kaby lake (e.g. the forthcoming Kaby Lake NUC) would have HDMI 2.0 (not 1.4) support natively. Do you mean that the only way to gain HDMI 2.0 support is to use a converted on the DP 1.2 port? If so, I thought current manufacturers of converters are limited in color bit depth and can't do true 4k 60hz at full color depth.
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tipoo - Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - link
There was a Zen iMac APU rumor, but I doubt the Macbooks would get it unless AMD pulled a real coup with Zen power draw.KPOM - Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - link
New MacBook Pros are expected in October, though. Those would be Skylake unless Apple has plans to use the 4.5W chips TDP upped to 7W, which I highly doubt (maybe in an updated MacBook Air, but I doubt that the Air will get an update).nils_ - Thursday, September 8, 2016 - link
Seems Apple hasn't announced any new Macbook Pros... On the other hand, they probably get a lot more profit on selling outdated hardware.BillBear - Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - link
According to Paul Thurrott, Microsoft was not at all happy with the general bugginess of Skylake.>while Intel has never formally confirmed this, my sources at Microsoft and elsewhere have told me that Skylake, the original “tock” release following Broadwell, was among the buggiest of chipsets that Intel has ever released. Problems with Skylake are at the heart of most of the issues that Microsoft has seen with its Surface Pro 4 and Surface Book devices, and it’s fair to say that the software giant now regrets delivering the very first Skylake-based devices into the market in late 2015.
https://www.thurrott.com/hardware/73161/intel-star...
KPOM - Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - link
So don't expect them to rush out a Surface Pro 5 or Surface Book 2 until they are comfortable there are no bugs?iwod - Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - link
As much as I dislike Apple's ways, sometimes they do things for a reason.Not sometimes, but EVERYTHING. With Apple, if you dont understand why they did something, it is highly likely you overlook rather then something they skip over.
lilmoe - Saturday, September 3, 2016 - link
Everyone does everything for a "reason". Most times than not, I don't like those reasons.I should have clarified; sometimes they do things for a *good* reason. Keyword here is "sometimes", IMO.
jhoff80 - Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - link
Interesting that it says that 4k resolution support is new on Skylake and also requires additional cooling, considering I have a tablet from Cube in China that is a Skylake Core M, fanless, and supports 4k over USB-C/DisplayPort Alternate Mode. Though then again, based on what I'm looking at in the UEFI settings, it doesn't appear like Cube followed any of Intel's guidelines either.jhoff80 - Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - link
Wait, I confused myself a little there thinking it said new on Kaby Lake. Just the additional cooling part is weird though.rogelio - Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - link
@ Ian Cutress & Ganesh T SI'm a little confused by the below, can you clarify:
One of the disappointing aspects from Skylake that has still not been addressed in Kaby Lake-U/Y is the absence of a native HDMI 2.0 port with HDCP 2.2 support
My understanding was that retail solution releases of Kaby lake (e.g. the forthcoming Kaby Lake NUC) would have HDMI 2.0 (not 1.4) support natively. Do you mean that the only way to gain HDMI 2.0 support is to use a converted on the DP 1.2 port? If so, I thought current manufacturers of converters are limited in color bit depth and can't do true 4k 60hz at full color depth.