Upcoming Hardware, Desktop Coming Later Appendix: Kaby Lake Fact Sheets
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  • fanofanand - Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - link

    It doesn't seem like temps have been the limiting factor with Skylake overclocking, so better thermals may not necessarily be an indicator of potential overclocking performance. My understanding is the z-height issues were preventing soldering the lid, (not sure how they were able to remedy that for DC) so whether or not KL is a solid overclocker will have more to do with other factors than temps. Reply
  • fallaha56 - Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - link

    has anyone actually made VP9 acceleration work on their Skylake system?!

    i certainly haven't on my SurfacePro4 -with the latest driver from MS...
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  • negusp - Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - link

    VP9 is only partially supported in terms of encoding and decoding (Intel was kinda hazy on that). I force H.264 on Chrome simply because I don't have bandwidth issues and shouldn't need VP9. Reply
  • Arbie - Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - link

    How did we get to 7 pages of comments and no flame war yet? Who's not here? Reply
  • fanofanand - Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - link

    Vlad and ddriver. Once they get here all hell will break loose like usual. Reply
  • th3z3r0 - Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - link

    Seems like a decent upgrade for notebooks and for 4k videos.

    http://www.notebookcheck.net/Kaby-Lake-Core-i7-750...
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  • MrSpadge - Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - link

    "We are told that transistor density has not changed, but unless there’s a lot of spare unused silicon in the die for the wider pitch to spread, it seems questionable."

    With the taller fins they're increasing the drive current which each fin provides. A transistor uses several fins, depending on how much current it has to drive. By using taller fins Intel can get away with fewer of them and hence can place them further apart and reach the same transistor density.
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  • negusp - Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - link

    Doh! There goes my hopes for proper Skylake support on linux. Reply
  • Morawka - Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - link

    ok so lots of marketing BS in this article, not anand's fault, rather intel's.

    So what i'm seeing is virtually no IPC improvements, not even 1-2%, all gains are coming from optimized max turbo clockspeeds. GPU is what see's the majority of the improvements, however there are a few fixed function blocks on the CPU that are new for VP9.

    Intel is doing mobile first yet again. I dont blame them, those mobile chips are waay overpriced and have the most profit margin. $300 core M CPU anyone?!?!, or how about a $450 quad core mobile i7. Yeah same ol tricks coming from intel. Won't be long before intel is irrelevant, i'd say within 10 years, mostly due to AMD's recent IPC gains and ARM taking a bigger part of the market if the Intel Fabbed Apple iPhone Chips rumors pann out. Some say apple will move all their mobile to arm, and they will all be fully custom by apple, but made by 10nm and 7nm intel foundries.
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  • zodiacfml - Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - link

    I disagree on most points but I have to agree with you with Intel's current strategy. I know they can release the 10nm parts this year. It might painful and expensive and works for the near-term, but as ARM continues to build bigger and faster parts, the gap is becoming smaller throughout the years.

    Next thing they'll know (Intel), people will start using PCs based on ARM. Microsoft's strategy of releasing and maintaining an ARM based OS (Windows phone) wasn't bad as it looks now. Intel is ignoring the mainstream/consumer market who funds the R&D and tools required for the lucrative products in the server/enterprise market.
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