Broadwell-E Conclusion

Intel’s latest Broadwell-E platform is the next iteration of their high-end desktop strategy, which involves bringing the low-to-mid range professional processors into the consumer market and adding a few features (such as overclocking), but removing others (ECC). For this launch, Intel introduced four processors, ranging from six cores to ten cores and varying in price from $434 to $1723.

At AnandTech we have tested Intel’s Broadwell cores before, both in our Broadwell desktop processor review of the Core i7-5775C and the professional level Broadwell-EP Xeon E5-2600 v4 processor review. We noted a 3-5% increase in clock-per-clock performance compared to the previous generation ‘Haswell’ parts at the time. This review tests all the new Broadwell-E parts for direct comparison to the Haswell parts.

Performance

The move from Haswell-E to Broadwell-E is a change from 22nm to 14nm process technology but the microarchitecture is mostly the same, barring minor adjustments. These adjustments include an improved memory controller (now qualified on DDR4-2400), a faster divider, slightly improved branch prediction, a slightly larger scheduler, and a reduction in AVX multiply latency from 5 cycles to 3 cycles.

Due to this, the performance of the new Broadwell-E parts is somewhat predictable. Adding more cores and adjusting for frequency is a good marker, as is adjusting for the new memory speed. That means a move from the i7-5960X to the i7-6950X gives two more cores at the same frequency, or about 25% more performance. The downside of this upgrade is the price: the i7-5960X was launched at $999/$1049, whereas the new i7-6950X is $1723. That’s a big price increase by any standard.

Turbo Boost Max 3.0: A Troubled Implementation

For Broadwell-E, Intel introduced a new technology called Turbo Boost Max 3.0. With an appropriate driver, BIOS, BIOS settings, and software, this allows the system to pin a single threaded program to the best performing single core at a higher-than-listed frequency. It sounds as if it has potential, but the implementation means that very few users will ever see it.

Firstly, the driver/software implementation is perhaps easily overcome when the driver gets pushed through Windows 10 updates, similar to Speed Shift on Skylake processors which is now fully active. The part where it breaks down is in the BIOS and BIOS settings requirements. Ultimately the BIOS controls which P-states are in play (when the OS selects them), but the BIOS settings can override anything the processor might want by default. Because TBM3 involves an increase in frequency, this requires a number of settings in the BIOS to be enabled. But, because each processor is different, motherboard manufacturers are most likely going to run these options at a very conservative value so none of their users have a bad experience. In the end, whether it's used is going to depend on if the motherboard manufacturers enable it in the first place. In the motherboard we tested, we were told that it was a management decision to have it disabled by default. Because most users never touch the BIOS, especially in a prosumer/professional markets, it will most likely never be used in this case.

We didn’t get time to run a full benchmark suite with TBM 3.0 enabled, and will most likely follow up to see where in our tests it can make the most difference.

Market

The pricing will be prohibitive to most. Many enthusiasts who have played in the HEDT space for a number of years are used to the $999/$1049 price point for the most expensive processor, even when the number of cores has increased. However, this time Intel has decided to increase the top chip's cost by almost 70%. This has complications as to what product is best for prosumers looking to upgrade.

For $1721, if a user wants to invest in the i7-6950X but does not want the overclocking, they can invest in either the 14-core E5-2680 v4 for $1745 giving 40% more cores at a lower power with a slight decrease in frequency, or get double the cores in a 2P system and using the E5-2640 v4 processor: a 10-core 2.4 GHz/3.4 GHz part, running at 90W, for $939. Two of these runs a $1878, which is slightly more but having double the cores available might be the more important thing here. However because these CPUs are not often found at retail, it means that users may have to approach a system builder/integrator in order to source them.

One would assume that Intel is interested in retaining the long term HEDT hold-outs still on Nehalem, Westmere and Sandy Bridge-E processors. These prices (and the overclocking performance) might make these users feel that they should hold on another generation, or invest in Haswell-E. That being said, the low-end Broadwell-E pricing is higher than that of the low-end Haswell-E, which will extend the pricing gap between the mainstream and the high-end desktop platform.

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  • nevcairiel - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    Even if it is, its like 2 years and 2 generations late to the party then. By the time Zen is out, we have Kaby Lake, and they advertise being on-par with not the current, not the previous, but one gen even before that?
  • Spunjji - Wednesday, June 1, 2016 - link

    Their claims (if true) would signify rough IPC parity with Broadwell, which Skylake outclasses by a mighty 2.3% according to this site. That was in turn a staggering 3.3% over Haswell so even matching that won't leave them far off the mark. We have no reason to suppose the Kaby Lake release will alter than pattern substantially.

    It's all big ifs, though, and of course it'll be compared to whatever's out when it finally arrives.
  • Flunk - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    We can hope I guess, I gave up hope long ago.
  • maxxcool - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    If you are buying a 8 core cpu from EITHER vendor specifically 'game on' your a proper idiot, tool and dumbass.
  • JoeyJoJo123 - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    If you are telling people what they can and can't do with their money along with slinging personal attacks, you're a proper idiot, tool, and you need to get a job so you can manage your own money, rather than someone else's.

    Seriously though. This is the internet. You should really stop caring about what other people spend their own money on. People much richer than these kids are spending money on sports cars and getting into a wreck a week later, often involving other vehicle(s) and/or innocent people.

    I really couldn't care less if 10,000 people on this article's comments section thought the new extreme edition processor was a "good value" and bought one (or more). More power to them.
  • hoohoo - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    AMD is not a charity.

    AMD will charge as much as the market will bear.

    Ninety percent of the performance probably costs about ninety percent the price.
  • Michael Bay - Wednesday, June 1, 2016 - link

    >supposed to be
    >Zen
    At this point in time it`s not even remotely funny anymore.
  • Bulat Ziganshin - Saturday, June 4, 2016 - link

    >Zen is supposed to be really, really close to Broadwell in IPC.

    are you really believe that AMD, who was a lot behind Intel back in 2008, and then lost a few years on Bulldozer development, in a miraculous way will jump over? i expect that Zen will be a little better than their last Phenom, and that their first implementation of SMT will be as inefficient as Nehalem one. And higher core count, as well as AMD huge lag in lowering-heat-dissipation technologies, will mean more heat and therefore stricter limits on frequency - the same limits as in 10-core Broadwell and probably even stricter. So it may be like 8-core Nehalem at 4 GHz (with best overclocking). That's better than i7-6700K for multi-threaded tasks, but of course slower for tasks with 1-4 threads, including most of games. Or you may continue to believe in Santa :)
  • jchambers2586 - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    you spend $434 on a CPU and it does not perform than a $ 250 6600K in gaming you would think spending more would get you better gaming performance. I don't' think spending $434 on the i7-6800K is worth it for gaming.
  • beginner99 - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    This is the take-away. Useless for gaming for now. If 6-cores will actually benefit from DX12 remains to be seen. If I were I game developer I would focus on making use of the iGPU versus scaling above 4-cores because most of my user base has an idling iGPU and very few more than 4 cores.

    If it would at least have edram. For broadwell it's 5775c or else skylake for gaming.

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