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Retail Windows 7 Prices Announced, Upgrades Half Off For The Next 2 Weeks
Retail Windows 7 Prices Announced, Upgrades Half Off For The Next 2 Weeks
Date: June 25th, 2009
Author: Ryan Smith
Buy the Microsoft FQC-00765 Windows 7 64-bit
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 Newegg $139.99
 TigerDirect $149.99
 Amazon $145.49
 
 

Microsoft has released the retail prices for Windows 7, so let's dive right in.
 
For full retail versions:
  • Home Premium Full: $199
  • Professional Full: $299
  • Ultimate Full: $319
For retail upgrades:
  • Home Premium Upgrade: $119
  • Professional Upgrade: $199
  • Ultimate Upgrade: $219
This doesn't include OEM pricing. OEM versions cost significantly less since the license is non-transferable from one computer (defined as a motherboard by Microsoft) to another, but due to volume discounts we don't know what the exact pricing will be. Individual units tend to go for one-half the price of a full retail kit, so adjust accordingly.

This means that we also don't have the prices for Home Basic and Starter. Home Basic is limited to developing countries, but Starter is not. Presumably Starter is going to be dirt-cheap (relatively speaking) to match the margins of the Netbooks Microsoft is trying to pair it with. Copies of XP for use on Netbooks have been rumored to be as cheap as $15 for the biggest OEMs.

Of note, users hoping for a cheap upgrade path from Vista are going to be disappointed. The retail upgrade kits are for Vista and XP, and are priced accordingly. This may be good for picking up the stragglers who are still on XP, but it's not going to do any favors for Microsoft in picking up Vista users. Vista-to-Win7 pricing is likely too high for the limited differences between the two.

As compared to Vista pricing, Win7 Home Premium is roughly 10% cheaper than it is for Vista, in particular hitting the somewhat magical $199 price point for a full version that Vista Home Premium never reached. I had been expecting Microsoft to do $99 for the Home Premium upgrade (never underestimate the value in manipulating consumers when superficially chopping off a digit in a price) but it looks like that's not in the cards.

Win7 Professional prices are unchanged compared to Windows Vista Business. Microsoft will be selling this as a reasonable price since Win7 Professional is not stripped of Home Premium's features like Vista Business was, but the OEMs in particular aren't going to be amused. There has been some saber rattling recently between some of the OEMs and Microsoft over this matter, as they wanted the price to come down on Professional/Business to shore up their margins.

Last, Ultimate is going to be priced significantly lower than it was for Vista's launch, although in recent months it has been priced lower because of slow sales due to its silly price in the first place. Microsoft's list price of $319 is well above what Vista Ultimate is going for right now ($250 at Newegg) so some things may still be in flux, or Microsoft is trying to burn off boxed copies of Vista Ultimate. Regardless, Win7 Ultimate will only be priced $20 above Win7 Business, an appropriate price given the few differences between it and Professional. However given that it's just a few differences and Microsoft's own intentions to downplay it, it's probably not going to be a big seller.

On a final note, Microsoft is starting to pander to the bargain hunters early, so if you have been waiting for a Win7 version of Power Together, The Ultimate Steal, or other Microsoft discount promotions, pay attention. Microsoft will be taking pre-orders for Win7 upgrades through some of their closest retail partners (Newegg, Best Buy, etc) starting tomorrow and ending July 11th. The Home Premium and Professional upgrades will be priced at $49 and $99 respectively. I'll update this post tomorrow with links once we have them.

Meanwhile in a strange turn of events, Europe is going to be getting an even better pre-order deal. Microsoft has been having legal issues in the region, most recently with regard to Internet Explorer, so this may be an attempt to placate the European Commission. Pre-orders there will be for the full versions, and will be priced at roughly €49.99 ($70) and €109.99 ($154) respectively for Home Premium and Professional, with prices likely varying some between countries. This may end up being the cheapest way to get a full version of Win7 at the moment, depending on one's ability to find a participating retailer that will ship to North America, and what those shipping charges will be alongside Customs fees and taxes.
 
Update:
 
The pre-order sales have started. Microsoft has a site up with all of the participating vendors, including Newegg, Amazon, and Fry's. It looks like a couple of vendors have broken the MSRP, Costco is selling both versions for $5 less.

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Users hoping for a cheap upgrade path from Vista are going to be disappointed?! by Pirks, 228 days ago
That's BS! You can't be disappointed with ultrasteal $49/upgrade deal. This will be first legal retail copy of Windows in my life, woohoo! $49 can't be freakin resisted no matter what Ryan complains about here.

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RE: Users hoping for a cheap upgrade path from Vista are going to be disappointed?! by Ryan Smith, 228 days ago
Bear in mind that I'm referencing the regular $119/$199 pricing. The pre-orders are a good deal, but they're only for 2 weeks.

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RE: Users hoping for a cheap upgrade path from Vista are going to be disappointed?! by vol7ron, 225 days ago
I thought that users who purchased a computer w/ Vista (or Vista itself) during 2009 would receive an automatic free upgrade to Win7. Was this reported wrong?

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RE: Users hoping for a cheap upgrade path from Vista are going to be disappointed?! by mcnabney, 224 days ago
You are wrong.

Most vendors that want to sell you a Vista PC, right now, will offer you a free upgrade to 7 voucher. Purchases before June will receive nothing for free. You can't hear it right now, but that is the sound of Microsoft giving you the finger and eagerly anticipating your upgrade purchase to add a little more cash to their huge money pile.

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RE: Users hoping for a cheap upgrade path from Vista are going to be disappointed?! by Jeff7181, 228 days ago
Yes, I can be. You should be too. You can legally upgrade a stolen version of Windows to a legal version using a Windows 7 upgrade license.

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RE: Users hoping for a cheap upgrade path from Vista are going to be disappointed?! by Jeff7181, 228 days ago
That should read... you can't legally upgrade...

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RE: Users hoping for a cheap upgrade path from Vista are going to be disappointed?! by Pirks, 228 days ago
Check your facts losa :P

http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs...ade-media-what-about-x64-upgrades.aspx

I've gotten a ton of questions about the Windows 7 retail pricing stuff, as expected. But the number one question, by far, is an oldie but goodie:
"Can I use a Windows 7 Upgrade version to perform a clean install of the OS?"
This is becoming particularly antsy for people because they want to take advantage of the time-limited Windows 7 presale, which starts tomorrow.
So, what the heck, I asked.
The answer, I'm told, is ... Yes. You can perform a clean install of Windows 7 with the Upgrade media, as you could with Windows Vista.

eat that! hahahaaaa :)))

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RE: Users hoping for a cheap upgrade path from Vista are going to be disappointe by sebmel, 227 days ago
This reply highlights the ambiguity of English:

can = possible
can = permission

Yes you can (possible) use an upgrade copy of Windows 7 to do a clean install but, NO, you can't (permission) if you don't have a full legal license for XP or Vista.

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RE: Users hoping for a cheap upgrade path from Vista are going to be disappointed?! by mcnabney, 224 days ago
Yes, you can install it.

But no, you will not be able to activate it without associating it with a legitimate XP/Vista key. So it will run for a while, then die.

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RE: Users hoping for a cheap upgrade path from Vista are going to be disappointed?! by Homerr, 224 days ago
Keep in mind that to have a legit upgrade you need a legit older full OS.

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Upgrade from?? by uhhh, 228 days ago
The price of the Windows 7 Upgrade is pretty good. But what exactly does the upgrade require? How old can the previous Windows be? 95/98/NT?

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RE: Upgrade from?? by ViRGE, 228 days ago
Quothe the article:

"The retail upgrade kits are for Vista and XP"

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RE: Upgrade from?? by uhhh, 228 days ago
Right. Thank you, had overlooked this point.

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RE: Upgrade from?? by strikeback03, 228 days ago
Does the upgrade have to be from a previous retail copy? I have a OEM copy of XP MCE purchased from Newegg, can I use an upgrade? And what version does that translate to? Home Premium I assume?

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RE: Upgrade from?? by Lemonjellow, 227 days ago
I'd assume they'd allow an OEM disc to upgrade considering the number of folks out there who purchased store bought beige boxes with an OEM install of Vista on it from retailers... I doubt MS would pass up a chance to make money off of selling them an easy upgrade...

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RE: Upgrade from?? by mcnabney, 224 days ago
Any legal XP or Vista key.

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What about MSDN?? by faxon, 228 days ago
I have access to an MSDN Academic Alliance account via my college, and i plan to be enrolled in classes eligible for free software (including OSes) at the time of windows 7 launch. Do you guys have any word on which versions will be available via this particular type of MSDN subscription. I already have 2 keys for Vista Business from the same subscription, so chances are Professional will be. However, I need a Win7 copy pretty much as soon as it comes out for a project I will be working on at the time, and I am curious to know exactly what kind of disks the upgrade copies will require to properly install themselves onto your computer. All my copies of Vista are MSDN copies which I burned from the ISO I downloaded from Microsoft, as are many of the copies of XP Pro I have. I may have a retail copy of XP Pro lying around somewhere, but I cant be sure since I have been using MSDN copies since 2006. Any info on what exactly the retail upgrade copies require to work would be appreciated

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RE: What about MSDN?? by Ryan Smith, 228 days ago
I have yet to see an MSDNAA OS that wasn't Professional/Business, so your assumption is likely correct.

As for whether you can do an upgrade install with an OEM Win7 key (which is what MSDNAA keys are) I'm afraid I have no idea. I'd assume it's done in whatever manner Vista handled it.

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RE: What about MSDN?? by faxon, 226 days ago
thanks for the input. i will look into it next time fry's microsoft rep comes into our store, which should be soon

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Thanks by anilnithi, 228 days ago
Thanks for sharing this informative blog.

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How many times must a man istall Windows... by know of fence, 228 days ago
On how many different PCs (motherboards) will I be able to intall and activate Win7? Will I run out of licenses at some point?

There has to be limits even for the non OEM-Versions. Its funny how this cruicial information is omitted, wherever I look. Usually DRM states the number of possible installation.

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RE: How many times must a man istall Windows... by Ryan Smith, 228 days ago
There's no legal limit. You're licensed to move it to as many machines as you'd like.

However there does seem to be an undefined technical limit, at which point the activation system gets suspicious. Poor Gary is blacklisted from the online activation system because of just how frequently he reinstalls Vista due to his motherboard trials - he has to phone it in every time. At no point has he ever been denied from activating it however, to my knowledge.

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RE: How many times must a man istall Windows... by sebmel, 227 days ago
There is some ambiguity here:

How many motherboards running at the same time? One

How many motherboards changed over the lifetime of a single computer? This is an interesting question I have never heard a clear answer from Microsoft about.

At times they have tested the waters with comments suggesting full motherboard linkage: that's to say there were suggestions that one would need a new license every time one bought a motherboard. To date they have never tested the market with this and I think they haven't because they realise it wouldn't be accepted.

Does anyone know how many online re-activations of Windows are currently necessary to flag up a piracy concern at Redmond?

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RE: How many times must a man istall Windows... by just4U, 224 days ago
I've done alot of installs using OEM licenses when changing boards.. From what I can tell..

If it's not frequent it might not require a call in. But if you did say switched in your board after installing vista say .. within 6 months then it would require a call in.

I don't know how legal it is from the user agreements standpoint but I do it all the time when upgrading peoples machines or testing new boards on my own computer.

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Windows 7 gives better scores in 3D Mark tests than Vista..... by jaggerwild, 228 days ago
But I for one will not be rushing out to give Bill Gates my money, I will just stick to striping down my "Home Basic Vista 64 bit" as I'm used to it already.
Great Job Bill!

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RE: Windows 7 gives better scores in 3D Mark tests than Vista..... by gwolfman, 228 days ago
I'm glad the pricing is more reasonable (the pre-order upgrades at least). I'd like to see this more often M$!

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Europe is getting Windows 7 E only (no Internet Explorer) by Digobick, 228 days ago
The European pricing is nice, but you failed to mention that Europeans will only get "Windows 7 E" - meaning no Internet Explorer. And because Microsoft hasn't fully tested upgrades from Windows Vista to Windows 7 E, the company will be disabling upgrades installs entirely (clean installs only).

So yes, it's a nice deal...if you don't mind what's in the fine print.

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RE: Europe is getting Windows 7 E only (no Internet Explorer) by strikeback03, 228 days ago
If those are the only items of fine print, it is hardly a loss. Obviously MS won't be blocking those who want IE from installing it. And doing a clean install isn't the end of the world.

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RE: Europe is getting Windows 7 E only (no Internet Explorer) by Griswold, 228 days ago
Not accurate. The european windows 7 box comes with an additional disc that contains IE. So, they do get IE, just not included in the OS install. I think MS could have saved some money by just making it an optional download via windows update the first time the machine is connecting to the internet...

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RE: Europe is getting Windows 7 E only (no Internet Explorer) by MadAd, 222 days ago
I think thats great, no IE tied in, woot

and who wants to do overinstals anyway, whether its an upgrade or not.

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Unfair to compare by CJuser, 228 days ago
Ok, so, how can you compare the two upgrade prices? They are completely different.

Apple - $29
Only from 10.5
Only for Intel chipped Macs (per system requirements)
10.4 Intel users get to pay full price
Non intel users get screwed

Microsoft - $49 (pre order)
from XP or Vista
Applies to anyone with a system that supports the minimum requirements (and can find Win 7 drivers for their system guts)
Very short duration at this price

Sure it's nice to try and put the $29 vs $49 argument out there, but it really meaningless...

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RE: Unfair to compare by Griswold, 228 days ago
Agreed. I wonder why so many people compare this - for many old customers - rotten apple deal to the redmond orange. It just doesnt work...

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RE: Unfair to compare by sebmel, 227 days ago
Snow Leopard:
Mac OS X 10.6 Upgrade from 10.5 $29
Mac OS X 10.6 Upgrade from 10.5 Family Pack (5 licenses) $49

Upgrade valid for Mac OS X 10.5 and Intel chips. Apple released Intel chipped iMacs and MacBooks in early 2006. Those that feel Apple is offering less than Microsoft here need to consider the compatibility and performance Windows 7 offers on computers released in 2005 or before.

I recall complaints of slow performance from Vista on good computers at it's release in November 2006. So how will Windows 7 fare on computers a year older than that?

Leopard:
Mac OS X 10.5 Full $129 ($99 Amazon)
Mac OS X 10.5 Full Family Pack (5 licenses) $199 ($133 Amazon)

Mac OS X, ILife, iWork Box Set $169 ($129 Amazon)
Mac OS X, ILife, iWork Box Set Family Pack (5 licenses) $229 ($149 Amazon)

These are full prices at the online Apple Store, unless otherwise stated.

There are only two versions of the Macintosh OS, Client and Server. No limited functionality, cheaper versions exist.


Windows 7 comparison:

Full retail versions
Home Premium Full: $199
Professional Full: $299
Ultimate Full: $319

For retail upgrades:
Home Premium Upgrade: $119
Professional Upgrade: $199
Ultimate Upgrade: $219


At current prices a single FULL copy of the Windows OS (Ultimate) costs double the price of five full licenses for Mac OS X, accompanied by 5 licenses for iLife and iWork.

There is no reason to believe Apple will not offer the same bundles for Snow Leopard when it is released later this year.

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RE: Unfair to compare by sebmel, 227 days ago
Apple recently removed the serial number registration from iWorks.

As a result there is no serial registration of any kind for the above mentioned products: Mac OS X, iLife and iWorks.

It is also the case that their upgrade CDs have full copies of Mac OS X, and do clean installs.

Neither are there any versions with missing functionality, or memory and multitasking limitations.

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You can only compare Windows Upgrade to OS X by mikefarinha, 222 days ago
You cannot compare the price of the full version of Windows to OS X because you cannot legally make or buy a Mac that doesn't already have the OS installed on it. In effect you can only ever upgrade your copy of OS X because you've already purchased a computer with it preinstalled.

The full version of Windows can be user-installed on 'virgin' hardware unlike OS X.

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RE: You can only compare Windows Upgrade to OS X by sebmel, 222 days ago
Any owner of an Intel Mac without a full license to Mac OSX 10.5 will need to buy a full copy license should they wish to run Mac OS X 10.6.

Intel Macs were launched in January, 2006, running Mac OS X 10.4.6.
Intel Macs with 10.5 pre-loaded were released in the Fall of 2007.

Microsoft is offering to upgrade XP. Whether you take them up in that, or not, depends in large part on whether or not your hardware could run it. Vista was criticised as being slow on much hardware being released in late 2006. That is now the subject of a class action suit against Microsoft for mis-selling 'Vista Capable'.

Windows 7 may be faster than Vista but isn't likely to be capable of running well on computers sold as early as January, 2006 without significant investment in upgrades. Criticism of Vista performance dogged uptake right up to the present day. It will be interesting to see to what extent Windows 7 manages to remedy that.

Apple, on the other hand, didn't create that problem. Mac OS X 10.5 runs fast on early Intel Macs... I'm typing on one. Mac OS X 10.6 is designed to be faster than 10.5 on the same hardware.

So Apple is offering a very cheap upgrade price on computers released in Fall 2007 (the point at which 10.5 was offered pre-loaded) and a midrange cost to those upgrading computers released in January 2006 (the Intel debut).

You can compare that with Windows 7's realistic hardware specs.

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Done by djc208, 228 days ago
Hopped on this one first thing this morning. Took a little while to decide between the two versions but with my Windows Home Server I don't need most of the features in the business version, so I stuck with the cheaper Home version.

I'll take the extra $50 and apply it toward a new SSD to run it on.

Don't think the regular price is worth it if you're coming from Vista, but the pre-order price is good enough to justify the cost. If your coming from XP like I am this is a steal.

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RE: Done by machinegoesping, 228 days ago
be careful with trying to install it on that new ssd. i've phoned microsoft three times regarding so-called clean installs and have gotten three different answers as well as innumerable answers on the internet. the various answers could be from my various phrasings, or they could be trying to skate around the real answer, but here goes...

the first time i asked them if i could do a "clean" install with the upgrade media. the person said, "yes, a clean install is possible." i then read varying responses on the internet, so i phoned them again. this time i asked, "is it possible to do a clean install without already having windows xp or vista installed on the harddrive?" to which the response was "yes, provided you have a valid product key." and, again i read that this was not true, so i phoned again. this time i asked the person on the line if i could speak with someone in tech support. i was transferred and i then asked the question, "is it possible to install the upgrade media on a virgin drive, on which no previous windows os has ever been installed?" the response i got was "no, it is not possible to use the upgrade media in that manner." i then asked the same person whether "having a valid key handy during the install would make this possible?" and i was told that "the upgrade media requires a previous os installed on the drive." he then continued, "there were certain work-arounds in the past, such as installing the operating system without activating, rebooting, then reinstalling the system with activation. these sorts of install methods with upgrade media are being investigated and we are considering implementing a method to thwart such installations."

so, i don't know what to buy. i prefer not installing win xp on my drive and then installing win 7. it just seems like a bit of a pain in the arse. i guess i'll wait for oem pricing.

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RE: Done by sebmel, 227 days ago
Thanks for pointing that out. This is an important issue to resolve for an OS with a reputation for needing 6 monthly reinstalls.

If Microsoft have decided that customers buying upgrade CDs are going to have to do two installs to do a clean install of an OS that is notoriously time consuming to install they clearly still don't feel the OS market is sufficiently competitive for them to have to have to treat their customers to a pleasant experience.

Even the most vitriolic of Apple Computer's critics ought to be wishing for the day when Apple's market share causes Microsoft to think twice about how they treat users of Windows OS.

Competition between companies is good for consumers.

Disclosure: I have used both Macs and PCs since 1996. Currently a clean XP install takes me about 1.5 hours. Mac OS X 10.5 takes me 2 minutes of work and 10 minutes for the computer. The main difference is that Mac OS asks all the questions at the end, while Windows keeps hanging during the process waiting for responses.

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RE: Done by mcnabney, 224 days ago
You must be doing something wrong.

A clean XP install takes about 25 minutes, maybe 30 for Vista.

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RE: Done by sebmel, 222 days ago
I guess I could achieve the same with all drivers to hand, and a modified disc image updated with all patches, and if I were prepared to sit and coax Windows through it's various demands for attention.

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Hmm, confused by bill3, 228 days ago
First of all I have the same question as an earlier person, I have OEM Vista, and I'm wondering if the retail upgrade applies to me?

My next question is, having Vista 64, I wonder if Win 7 is even worth it?

Next, I've often read that upgrade installations are to be avoided, that they're always buggy etc, and to always stick with a clean installation So..is it even advisable to upgrade at all?

Theres also the fact I believe on Vista, there was a sneaky, unapproved way to do a clean install with the upgrade version only, will the same apply to Win 7?

Also, lets say I want to do a new build, or even just reinstall (theres countless reasons or problems that may cause reinstall, hell some crazy people even reinstall every single time they change video card drivers!). Now how does that work? Would I have to reinstall my OEM Vista first, then redo the upgrade?

Even though I'm on OEM, and it's supposed to only be for one mobo, I've always heard/figured it would be good for at least one more build, as I've hear just calling MS and telling them your mobo fried will usually work for another install. Of course, that doesnt even address reinstalls on the same mobo.

All in all I'm pretty on the fence whether this 49 upgrade is worth it to me..it's rather confusing. I mean this seems only good for people who have retail vista and can move it around, do countless clean reinstalls etc.

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RE: Hmm, confused by bill3, 228 days ago
But of course, the reason I dont just have retail Vista is it's EXPENSIVE.

When I did my build from newegg I just picked up OEM Vista for 99 bucks. It was another added expense to be sure, but I felt it was worth it. First time I've been legit in ages (if only because pirating Vista (and then keeping MS from blacklisting it) is not the breeze XP was..) but hey it does feel good to be legit..





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RE: Hmm, confused by Ryan Smith, 227 days ago
"First of all I have the same question as an earlier person, I have OEM Vista, and I'm wondering if the retail upgrade applies to me?"
Upgrade kits have always applied to all versions of Windows; retail and OEM alike.

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pre installed OS by dolcolax, 228 days ago
hi, i have a question, can i buy this win 7 upgrade and install it on a laptop with pre installed OS?

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RE: pre installed OS by bill3, 228 days ago
dont expect an answer. apparently nobody knows the answers to even the most basic questions about this

i think your question is similar to mine if i can install it on oem. no answers yet though.

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RE: pre installed OS by dolcolax, 228 days ago
i guess the best we can do is visit the store and ask someone working there.

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Over $200 for an UPGRADE for Ultimate? by Jeff7181, 228 days ago
You've GOT to be effin' kidding me...

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RE: Over $200 for an UPGRADE for Ultimate? by mcnabney, 224 days ago
Microsoft knows that anyone that purchased Ultimate before is their biatch and they are glad to keep milking them for more dough.

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RE: Over $200 for an UPGRADE for Ultimate? by mikefarinha, 222 days ago
Well, to be objective Windows 7 Ultimate does not have the same allure as Vista Ultimate. The biggest deal with Vista Ultimate was not the Ultimate Extras that the critic's constantly lampooned (for good reason) but the fact that Vista Ultimate = Vista Business + Windows Media Center.

Windows 7 negates a lot of this. In fact the put some of the enticing features of Win7 Pro into Win7 Home Premium like IIS 7.5 and Volume Shadow Copy (Previous Version).

In fact the only reason to get Win7 Pro over Home Premium is if you want
-Offline files
-RDP Host (you can several free products for this)
-Network Backup (Not needed if you have a WHS)
-Domain Join (You either need it or you don't)
-Windows XP Mode (Or use Virtual Box/Virtual PC and your own XP license)
-Encrypting File System
-Location Aware Printing

The only reason for Win 7 Ultimate over Win 7 Pro are
-Boot from VHD
-App Locker
-Bit Locker
-Branch Cache
-Direct Access
-Federated Search
-Multi Languages

None of the Ultimate features are the sexy geek features that you'd think, just a bunch of corporate features that Joe Geek wouldn't ever use. Also OSX doesn't have any of those features so you can't really compare the two.

When you look at Win 7 Pro it is hard to justify the extra cost for the marginal extra features.

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