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MSI X58 Eclipse - First Look
MSI X58 Eclipse - First Look
Date: October 26th, 2008
Author: Gary Key
 
 

We are rapidly approaching the i7 Core and X58 launch date.  With that in mind, we are starting to receive final production motherboards from a variety of manufacturers.  The latest board in the labs is the MSI Eclipse featuring the X58 and ICH10R chipsets.  Let's take a quick look at it.

MSI has dropped the circu-pipe (roller coaster theme) heatsink design and Crayola colors for a more traditional cooling system complimented by a very sharp looking blue/black color palette. In fact, the layout of the X58 Eclipse is one of the best we have seen in a long time with all ports and slots easily accessed.

We are not crazy about the X58 heatsink design as it resembles a small coffin when viewed up close. MSI is not going to change the design this late in the game but we should see a nice black plate attached to the top of it to match the ICH10R and MOSFET heatsinks before retail shipment. At least we hope...

The board features MSI's DrMOS MOSFET + Driver IC 6-phase power source design. In addition to DrMOS, there is a healthy smattering of solid aluminum capped capacitors, Hi-C capacitors around the CPU area, sealed ferrite chokes, and the PMWs are powered by the Intersil ISL6336.

Audio is provided by a PCIe x1 based Creative X-FI audio controller on a breakout card. While not the latest X-FI chipset from Creative, this one still supports EAX 5.0, provides 8-channel output, is spec'd at 100dB SNR with 24-bit / 96KHz capability. A welcome change from the Realtek ALC-888/885 product family.

Also included is power, reset, and DLED2 on/off switches. MSI is providing a dip-switch for changing the base clock speeds to 133, 166, or 200 MHz at POST time. The board also features several LED status indicators for everything from standby mode to QPI phase status.

MSI has provided a very good PCI/PCI Express slot layout. The Eclipse features three PCIe 2.0 x16 slots (two x16 and one x4 electrical), two PCIe x1 slots and two PCI slots.

This board features extensive storage options. We get a total of ten SATA and two eSATA ports. The SATA ports are provided by the Intel ICH10R (six - black - RAID 0,1,5,10) and a pair of JMicron JMB322 chipsets (four - blue - RAID 0,1, JBOD). A JMicron JMB363 provides IDE support and the two eSATA (RAID 0,1) ports. IEEE 1394a support is provided by the VIA VT6308P.

The I/O panel features eight of the available twelve USB 2.0 ports, an IEEE 1394a port, two eSATA ports, two RJ-45 (Realtek 8111C) PCIe Gigabit ports, PS/2 keyboard/mouse ports, and a long overdue clear CMOS button.

That is our quick look for today, we will be back shortly with additional component details, a BIOS guide, and performance results.

 
Gallery: MSI X58


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Nice! by marsbound2024, 471 days ago
Looks like a real winner for those multimedia buffs and storage freaks alike. A nice touch with the X-Fi chip, but too bad it isn't the latest. Love the design overall, but I agree that the heatsink isn't super appealing. Anxious for the tests on this board!

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RE: Nice! by techmanc, 470 days ago
I love the layout and features of the board!

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RE: Nice! by shabby, 470 days ago
Layout isnt perfect, there should be more spacing between the 2 16x pcie slots. The top card is going to get choked by the card below it.

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RE: Nice! by marsbound2024, 470 days ago
I am not sure I fully agree. There is a x1 and regular PCI slot between the two fully electrical x16 slots, if we consider the blue x16 slot at the "bottom" to be x4 electrical. Seems to be fairly adequate space to me.

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RE: Nice! by shabby, 469 days ago
Woops my eyes deceived me for a bit, you're right.

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RE: Nice! by Voldenuit, 470 days ago
I'd rather have an ASUS Xonar DX (or better yet, no bundled sound solution so I can pick my own), but of course, MSI can't pimp a competitor's product, now, can they?

Also, a clear CMOS button on the rear panel? I sincerely hope it's something you have to hold down for 5-10s to operate, otherwise ppl would be accidentally clearing their CMOS every time they try to plug in a USB or eSATA device -_-.

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RE: Nice! by Havor, 468 days ago
I cant see the point of all these storage connectors.
If you need lots of storage space you muths better of whit a server and Gbit network.

Have my self 1 150GB raptor for systeem disk and a 300GB raptor for game's and a 16GB SSD for the swap-file
This way i have the quickes setup because none of the 3 main HD-data flows is bugging eaths other.
IMHO a game/main machine should be as simple as posibe

And for storage i have 9.5TB whit a Areca RAID controller in my file / A/V / TV-server, And Gbit is almost as quick as a lokal drive for the rest of file ware speed is not a must
http://www.hardware.info/nl-NL/usersys/cmpxYp1lk2id/view/

And me personal I never ever going to use/buy Creative crap have now a asus XONAR damn worked out of the box DD-Live and no crapy blooted drivers that take 500MB space and loads of resourses.
The XONAR driver is 27MB :P and works perfect and is a prime example that les is more


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coffin heatsink by robkott, 471 days ago
Does it really matter what your heatsink looks like? Its not like your going to spend hours looking at it. As long as it does the job i couldn't really care how it looks. Sometimes just too much emphasis is put on form ...

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RE: coffin heatsink by marsbound2024, 470 days ago
I suppose this one is personal preference. Some people enjoy those cases with the side window and they design their computers to have clean cabling and matching cards and RAM sticks (as far as color goes) with the motherboard. They take pride in how their PC looks. To some it might be like an art piece or a statement in a way. If they can avoid a blemish or even a fatal flaw, then by all means they want to. Not saying the design is necessarily a fatal flaw, by any means. I am just thinking that some people really go all out on form as well as performance. Besides, the rest of the board looks pretty sweet and it is something you'd want to show off. Overall, I agree that I wouldn't really care though.

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RE: coffin heatsink by FI7Camaro, 469 days ago
HAI STEVE JOBS

IS THAT YOU OL CHAP??

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RE: coffin heatsink by JonnyDough, 469 days ago
Dear Anand. I would really appreciate it if you did not pull an "Apple" and delete my original post because it knocked on you for disliking the coffin heatsink. You can tell that there was a post above the one above this one.

Thanks,

~Someone who prefers not to be unrightfully censored

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Only For PC's! by CEO Ballmer, 470 days ago
Macs do not take advantage of great tech like this stuff people!


http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com


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RE: Only For PC's! by Griswold, 470 days ago
Ah, so that is how dirtbags like you piggy-back on popular sites like this to get your search ranking up to where it doesnt belong.

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RE: Only For PC's! by FI7Camaro, 469 days ago
i dunno i found it quite funny, steve ballmer seems like a really well informed, genuine bloke

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Pardon my ignorance, but when did Creative realease new version of X-Fi? by aos007, 470 days ago
I haven't heard that there was a new release of X-Fi cards. I am aware of only two major versions with several variations, and it's the latter one that was chaper and had many features provided in software, not hardware. Would it be possible to provide more details - such as which Creative card would be the equivalent of the one provided by MSI?

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RE: Pardon my ignorance, but when did Creative realease new version of X-Fi? by 3DoubleD, 470 days ago
I seemed to have missed the Anandtech article telling us about the updated X-Fi chipsets as well

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RE: Pardon my ignorance, but when did Creative realease new version of X-Fi? by marsbound2024, 469 days ago
Maybe it is one of the XtremeAudio cards? Or perhaps Anand is complaining about the included X-Fi using the EMU20K1 instead of the EMU20K2 chip? Though I think the 20K2 chips are reserved for the high end X-Fi cards. More likely this chip may be the XtremeAudio since it uses the same chipset that the old Audigy 2 cards use.

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foxconn hydra 100 board review soon? by faxon, 470 days ago
so when are we going to see a review on the Foxcon board? VR Zone did a review on it but it didnt really have much info on the board, probably because it isnt slated to be out at launch (hydra 100 board). i would really like more info on this board, since it had 2 SAS ports, and with the price of 74gb SAS drives being on par with a 150GB Velociraptor, the price vs performance is probably worth it

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PS2 ports in this age? by Aquila76, 470 days ago
Does anybody who would be shelling out approx. $300 for this motherboard actually still have a PS2 keyboard and/or mouse? They must be disappointed that there are no AGP slots!

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RE: PS2 ports in this age? by androticus, 470 days ago
Stop dissing compatibility. Your comment about AGP is absurd, because of course no one uses that now, but lots of people still have PS2 keyboards or mice, and it is nice to have the option, for example, to use a KVM box (I have one, and require to use PS2).

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RE: PS2 ports in this age? by Griswold, 470 days ago
You're right with most of what you say, but theres no need to exaggerate by claiming nobody is still using AGP. There are probably more people interested in buying todays low to mid range video cards with AGP than people interested in buying enthusiast mainboards such as this.

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RE: PS2 ports in this age? by strikeback03, 470 days ago
IIRC some people figure the PS/2 connected keyboard/mouse are more stable with overclocking.

As far as the AGP thing goes, somebody was asking for an AGP HD4830 in the comments of the launch article. I would think that any processors from that generation would struggle to put that GPU to full use, but there are still at least a few people asking for them.

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RE: PS2 ports in this age? by 9nails, 469 days ago
Some of my servers crash when I remote on to them with a USB mouse. The PNP causes the crash. Using PS2 is the fix. Not that this is a typical situation by any measure, but it is a valid example and justifies PS2 ports for my needs.

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don't see X-Fi being an advantage... by plonk420, 470 days ago
now, i DO only have 2.0 sound, but, while the speakers and amp are by no means great, they're no slouches either, i haven't gotten bad audio out of anything ALC883 or better... (tho i DO like the warm fuzzy feeling* of the Brown Burr DACs on the LR of my Chaintech AV-710)

input is APS or better MP3s, so take that as you will. i'm sure most of you so called "audiophiles" will see "MP3". people that know better will see APS...

if you truely can ABX APS MP3s against CDDA, i applaud you (and lust after your ears/setup).

*not ABXable .. at least by me

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RE: don't see X-Fi being an advantage... by HollyDOL, 470 days ago
Well, I don't have any good speakers setup (Genius Home Theatre), but can tell bitrate of MP3s just by listening to it (CBR).

But, considering your post... Do you think your current solution plays well? Then I suggest you borrow X-Fi card from your friend, play some music and try switching between that "PC speaker offspring" and a lil bit better playing card. Doubt you couldn't tell the difference. Even my badly hearing father was able to tell the difference between Audigy and Audigy2 cards and they were both miles better playing than mobo solutions.

It's like driving the car... Let's say you drive new beatle... Ye, it drives well... Until you sit in newest Ferrari.

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RE: don't see X-Fi being an advantage... by plonk420, 470 days ago
hate to break it to you, but CBR MP3s are a thing of 4+ years ago.

not that i care whether or not you can tell .. and how well you can tell, you can test your own ears (and possibly improve the mp3 encoder that's good enough for the other 98% of people) at a double blind test here: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=66564 ...if you CAN tell, and care to share the results, you can even include your nick! ...but that's SO MUCH work to repell trolls on the internet...

i'll consider getting the breakout box version of the X-Fi just to humor you (and other X-Fi zealots) if i come out ahead enough monetarily after a hardware shuffle... all i can say is that everyone i've talked to (across multiple mediums) that favors the X-Fi only does so because of the DSPs

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RE: don't see X-Fi being an advantage... by nipplefish, 470 days ago
AFAIK a 320kbps CBR will be technically better quality than a V0 VBR encode in LAME. Sure, most people can't tell the difference. But the way I see it, storage is about 10 cents a gigabyte now, so why not encode in the highest possible bitrate anyway?

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RE: don't see X-Fi being an advantage... by crimson117, 470 days ago
Yes, and why not just go lossless?


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RE: don't see X-Fi being an advantage... by plonk420, 469 days ago
if your ears benefit from the 4x increase in storage needs, more power to you.

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Cool! FW400! by takumsawsherman, 470 days ago
Thank God there's no Firewire 800. That would have been awful.

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RE: Cool! FW400! by strikeback03, 470 days ago
wow, took a good 15 hours or so for somebody to make this comment. The firewire fanbois are slacking.

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Yes indeed by Griswold, 470 days ago
Out with the rollercoaster, in with the warehouse theme for heatpipes and coolers. :P

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RE: Yes indeed by FI7Camaro, 469 days ago
LOL it IS a warehouse!

good spot.

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Sometimes you complain about the dumbest things by Hrel, 470 days ago
Seriously? it looks like a coffin? I mean sure, it's rectangular and rounded at the top; so that makes it a coffin. It's a copper loaded heatsink that most likely does a wonderful job of making sure your northbridge doesn't melt. Don't try to find fault where there is none; only find it where there is.

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OLED screen? by 9nails, 469 days ago
Is that an OLED screen next to SATA 9 & 10?

What is it for?

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Long overdue... is a front panel bus by 9nails, 469 days ago
Clear CMOS is noce to have, but what is REALLY long overdue is the design of a front panel bus that is standard throughout the case industry. That's the worst part of any case build is trying to make all those small wires look neat and fit properly on their respective headers. I'm referring to the HDD LED, Reset Switch, Power LED, etc...

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RE: Long overdue... is a front panel bus by FI7Camaro, 469 days ago
it generally is the same?

power led and power switch next to each other

hdd led and reset switch next to each other, under the 2 mentioned power male connectors..

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Pricing by VaultDweller, 468 days ago
How much is this thing going to cost?

I haven't seen any news yet about reasonably priced motherboards for the Nehalem launch. I aim to build a new gaming rig in March or April 2009, but if X58 boards are priced in the same ballpark as X48 boards, it looks like I'll be forced to wait for P55 in 2H08?

Seriously, can anyone point me in the direction of upcoming X58 boards that don't force me to pay for "I'm F'ing EXTREME" features?

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