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Overclocking Extravaganza: GTX 275's Complex Characteristics
Overclocking Extravaganza: GTX 275's Complex Characteristics
Date: June 4th, 2009
Topic: Video Card
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Author: Derek Wilson
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After our in depth look at overclocking with AMD's Radeon HD 4890, many of our readers wanted to see the same thing done with NVIDIA's GTX 275. We had planned on looking at both parts from the beginning, but we knew each review would take a bit of time and effort to design and put together. Our goal has been to try and design tests that would best show the particular overclocking characteristics of the different hardware, and shoehorning all that into one review would be difficult. Different approaches are needed to evaluate overclocking with AMD and NVIDIA hardware.

For our AMD tests, we only needed to worry about memory and core clock speed. This gave us some freedom to look at clock scaling in order to better understand the hardware. On the other hand, NVIDIA divides their GPU up a bit more and has another, higher speed, clock domain for shader hardware. Throwing another variable in there has a multiplicative impact on our testing, and we had a hard time deciding what tests really mattered. If we had simply used the same approach we did with the 4890 article, we would have ended up with way too much data to easily present or meaningfully analyze.

We've kept a few key test points, as we will look at each clock at the highest speed we could achieve on its own (all other clocks set at stock speeds). We will also look at performance with all clocks set to the maximum we could hit. Beyond this, rather than looking at how performance scales over clock speed with memory and shader at their maximum and looking at how performance scales over shader speed with memory and core at their maximum, we decided it would be cleaner to look at just one more configuration. For this test, we chose core and shader speed at maximum with memory at stock.

As with the previous look at overclocking, we present our analysis based on percent increases in performance but provide the raw data as well. It's all pretty straight forward with the raw data, and we do include our highly overclocked 4890 as well as the 900MHz core clocked 4890 that can be picked up pre-overclocked from the manufacturer. For the bulk of the article, we will just be considering the impact of overclocking on the GTX 275, but our conclusion will compare AMD and NVIDIA on overclocking in this segment.

The clock speeds we were able to pull out of our GTX 275 were not to shabby as far as overclocks go. Our core clock speed could have been better, but otherwise we did pretty well. Here is what we will be looking at today:

Core: 702MHz (vs. 633MHz stock)
Memory: 1296MHz (vs. 1134MHz stock)
Shader: 1656MHz (vs. 1404MHz stock)

These are 10.9, 14.3, and 17.9 percent increases respectively. First up, we'll look at the impact of overclocking the memory, then we'll move on to core and shader. After that it's on to fully overclocked and our core/shader combined overclock.

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Excellent article! Request: CF\SLI oc Bonanza! :) by walp, 169 days ago
Very nice article as always! :)

GTX275 and 4890 is really evenly matched in every different way(Price, performance, overclocking performance etc) except for the fact that 4890 can be used with the 19$ Accelero S1:

http://translate.google.com/translate?p...mp;sl=sv&tl=en&history_state0=

, which makes it totally quiet and cool. Just watch those VRM-temperatures and you will be just fine!

This is the main reason why I chosed the 4890 over GTX275, and the fact that I had a CF-compatible motherboard.

By the way, why didnt you include the 4890 (1\1.2)GHz idle power draw? Or is it just a little type-o? :)

Request: GTX275 SLI vs 4890 CF (And overclocking bonanza! :)))))

\walp

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RE: Excellent article! Request: CF\SLI oc Bonanza! :) by DerekWilson, 169 days ago
thanks for the feedback ... but I'm not touching overclocked SLI and CF ... ugh!

I didn't include the 4890 1/1.2 in idle power because it is redundant as it doesn't affect idle power. and came in at the same idle power as the other two. I wanted to save on graph space where i could because there was so much data -- plus we already covered that in the 4890 overclocking article. Sorry if I dropped too much out.




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RE: Excellent article! Request: CF\SLI oc Bonanza! :) by walp, 169 days ago
Hmm, mkay.
Was just confused by the fact that the sligthly overclocked 4890 wanted less juice than the original version in idle.
Maybe due to better VRM\mosfet underclocking or whatever. :)

At least do GTX275 SLI vs. 4890 CF, (and while doing that, just overclock them slightly, plz ;)
I have my finger on the 'ordering-another-4890-button', but wont buy another until anandtech.com reviews 4890 CF!

\walp

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RE: Excellent article! Request: CF\SLI oc Bonanza! :) by SiliconDoc, 166 days ago
Better be careful - from their 4890 extravaganza overclock article they did first and used the results in this comparison against nvidia:
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" We absolutely must caution our readers once again that these are not off-the-shelf retail parts. These are parts sent directly to us from manufacturers and could very likely have a higher overclocking potential than retail parts. "
YES WE KNOW - NOW YOU'VE TRANSFERRED YOUR RESULTS HERE AGAINST A 703 CORE THAT IS LOWER THAN THE FTW EVGA GTX275 you can but stock faster!
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You had BETTER look at a few other places that aren't so GD biased it's built in - and Derek is insanely red rooster fan boyed, and hates Nvidia, obviously, like so many little cluckers here for over a year now.-
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Jeepers- a special 4890 up against non overclocked gtx275 in the 4890 article, then transfer the special results here, and put NOT a regular clocked 4890 as in the other article to be half fair - but jam the massive results in from the special cards they got...
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I'm mean you really can't screw it up much worse than that.
They did their best red rooster bias blab possible, I'll say that much for em, and covered it up as best they could.


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Here's how the ATI "smaller chip" has helped their profit by SiliconDoc, 165 days ago
" Given the performance and pricing of Phenom II and the upcoming Radeon 5000 series, if AMD does not pull into black [records a profit] and achieves great sales success, we don't know what needs to happen in order for AMD to actually earn some serious money. "
LOL
Will ATI ever make a profit ? We keep hearing how smart they are and how they can really make money while NVidia's monster vore costs nvidia so much ! LOL
Awwww- poor ati can't make dime one while nvidia keeps posting profits...
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/20...-has-the-smallest-directx-11-chip.aspx
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Any red roosters gonna stop crowing about smaller gpu cores and their savings for ATI who loses money every single quarter, anytime soon ?
Probably NOT - they're so smart, so wise about making gpu's.



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oH LOOK the gtx275 beats the 4890 in one of dereks tests by SiliconDoc, 151 days ago
Not only does the gtx275 beat the 4890, but the gtx260 beats the 4870 !
http://www.techspot.com/review/164-radeon-4890-vs-geforce-gtx275/page3.html
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Oh gee, I guess I should follow dereks chart instead... ( GAG ! )

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Oh the gtx275 WINS even in overclocking ! by SiliconDoc, 151 days ago
Yes the gtx 275 wins even in overclocking... i wonder what went wrong with dereks tests...( no i don't !)
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http://www.techspot.com/review/164-radeon-4890-vs-geforce-gtx275/page9.html

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RE: Excellent article! Request: CF\SLI oc Bonanza! :) by Shadowmage, 169 days ago
Evenly matched? The 4890 OCed beats the GTX275 OCed in almost all benchmarks and wins considerably in every game at the resolution that I play at: 1680x1050. It also uses substantially less power and costs less than $200 (eg. ewiz deal at $160, newegg deal at $180), whereas the GTX275 still costs upwards of $220.

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RE: Excellent article! Request: CF\SLI oc Bonanza! :) by li3k, 169 days ago
I have to agree...

vote me down if you like, but the way this article is worded just reinforces the commonly held assumption that anandtech is biased towards intel/nvidia.



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RE: Excellent article! Request: CF\SLI oc Bonanza! :) by Carfax, 169 days ago
Except that the GTX 275 OC had a very moderate overclock compared to the greater overclock on the HD 4890.

I don't see how Anandtech only got 700mhz out of the core.

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