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The Radeon HD 4850 & 4870: AMD Wins at $199 and $299
The Radeon HD 4850 & 4870: AMD Wins at $199 and $299
Date: June 25th, 2008
Topic: Video Card
Manufacturer: AMD
Author: Anand Lal Shimpi & Derek Wilson
Buy the XFX HD-485X-ZDFC Radeon Video HD4850
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 Newegg $124.99
 BestBuy $169.99
 Buy.com $132.99
 
 

AA Comparison

And now the fun part: playing around with images. Certainly everyone has their own taste when it comes to AA, but we've cropped and blown up this 800x600 screenshot from Oblivion in order to better show what's really going on. As resolution increases and pixel size decreases, the impact of higher AA modes also decreases. This is useful to keep in mind here.

A few key points to check out: compare the interior of textures between either no AA image and any of AMD's tent filters. Notice how the detail on interior textures is significantly decreased. It can be quite frustrating to enable a high anisotropic filtering level to increase the detail of textures only to find them blurred by your AA mode. Also, note how NVIDIA's 8x CSAA and 16x CSAA modes only subtly change some of the pixels. This is because CSAA actually attempts to better understand the actual geometry that a pixel covers rather than going around looking for data outside the pixel to bring in.

These screenshots are with gamma correction enabled on NVIDIA hardware in order to give the best comparison with RV770 which does not allow us to disable gamma correction. We do prefer disabling gamma correction for the average case and especially for anti-aliasing thin lines.

Click the links in the table below to change the AA images displayed


AMD RV770 No AA

Click here to download all the full resolution, uncompressed images used in this comparison

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174 Comments - Last by calumhm, 151 days ago
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very good by weaksideblitz, 594 days ago
this is a welcome development although im only buying a 4850 :)

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RE: very good by Lifted, 594 days ago
Ditto. If I can get a 4850 for ~$150 or so, that's what I'm doing as well.

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RE: very good by Clauzii, 594 days ago
That leaves 50 for a better cooler ;)

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RE: very good by Lifted, 594 days ago
Is there any reason the first pages of benchmarks have SLI setups included in the charts, but you wait until the end of the article to add the CF? I'd think it would make the most sense to either include both from the start or hold both until the end.

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RE: very good by Anand Lal Shimpi, 594 days ago
The original idea was to format it like the 4850 preview, keep things simple early on but offer SLI/CF graphs later in the article for those who wanted them.

It looks like in the mad rush to get things done it didn't work out that way, I'll see if it's possible to clean it all up but right now we've got a lot of other minor touchups to do first :)

Take care,
Anand

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RE: very good by wilkinb, 594 days ago
Then include SLI for the 280... let the consumer care about what the value is or isn't, we all value different things. Provide the costs and the performance (SLI) please.

Its make this very incomplete to not have included SLI for the 280/260, I for one will more then likely get 2 x GTX280's not all of us worry about a few $$, but if the CF 4870's are that good, then I want to know as I don’t care about the brand and will go with the best performance.

Can you please include them soon so we can make our own judgements on what's good or not?

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RE: very good by Anand Lal Shimpi, 594 days ago
I've added the GTX 280 SLI numbers to all of the bar charts in the Multi-GPU section, enjoy :)

Note, I didn't add them to the line graphs simply because we didn't have data for 280 SLI at lower resolutions. It only really makes sense at 2560 x 1600 anyways so this shouldn't be an issue.

Take care,
Anand

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RE: very good by wilkinb, 594 days ago
thank you :)

I really appreciate the response

Now I just need work out what to order.

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RE: very good by paydirt, 593 days ago
9800 GTX is $200. I wonder what price the GTX+ debuts at.

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RE: very good by TechLuster, 594 days ago
Anand,

I really like your idea of "keeping things simple early on" by only including configurations that us mere mortals can afford at first (say, all single-GPU configs plus "reasonable" multi-GPU configs less than ~$400 total), and then including numbers for ultra high-end multi-GPU configs at the end (mainly just for completeness and also for us to drool over--I doubt too many people can afford more than one $650 card!).

Anyway, great job on the review as always. I think you and Derek should get some well-deserved rest now!

-TL

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