Will this + card oc higher than it's 65nm equivalent?

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It likely will.

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It's funny. Two weeks ago I would have loved to be able to get a 9800GTX for $200 (my budget for a video card in the upcoming build), but now I have absolutely no interest in it at that price due to the great performance of the HD 4850. Even if the two were even I would choose the ATI card because of regular driver updates, but it just amazes me that my fortune has changed so quickly that a card I used to really want no longer interests me because a better cheaper card came out so quickly.

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It's interesting to see how well the 4850 does in the performance per watt area. Even in CF it idles at less then the 9800GTX+, I guess that gap will lessen as Nvidia's 55nm process improves. Now if they would start putting some better coolers on the 4850...

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I guess you don't have a clue that both ATI and nVidia chips are manufactured in the same place. Or that nVidia doesn't own a foundry.

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Using the same process doesn't mean you'll get the same results. It's entirely possible to less a more power efficient chip using 55nm than a competing chip built using 65nm; it's all in the design. AMD has had more time fine-tuning their designs for 55nm, and we could see some updates to NVIDIA's 55nm part that will further reduce power requirements... or not. The fabrication facility is really only a small part of the equation; a great process with a lousy design still won't make for a killer product.

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Oops!

"to less a more" = "to build a more"

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Well thank you for giving me a clue, I wondered why the prices are so arbitrary and ridiculous. Everything is a gambled commodity with shorts and longs nowadays.


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They did:
http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=722

They are able to get it from 88 down to 46 @LOAD and 60 down to 37 @IDLE :))

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Unless I'm overlooking something, those numbers are for an nVidia 8800GT, not the ATI 4850.

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