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Sub $100 Graphics: AMD Radeon HD 3600 and 3400 Series
Sub $100 Graphics: AMD Radeon HD 3600 and 3400 Series
Date: January 23rd, 2008
Topic: Video Card
Manufacturer: AMD
Author: Derek Wilson
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DisplayPort and Hybrid Graphics

DisplayPort is basically a next step from DVI. HDMI has definitely emerged as the next connection standard in CE devices, but is not suited to the evolving needs of the PC market. The underlying design of DisplayPort is an extensible micro-packet based communication method with an auxiliary channel that will allow displays to more highly integrate with the PCs to which they are connected.

Daisy chaining devices is supported, which could allow multiple monitors to be plugged into the same computer to replicate the display. Future versions of DisplayPort will even support things like multiple video streams over a single physical connection. Some of the other cool features that current graphics cards might not take advantage of are the ability to send 16 bit per component data over the cable. Quad HD resolutions are also in the works while resolutions of 2560x1600 are supported currently.

While AMD's adoption leads a real need for it, having the ability to support DisplayPort in a market that plans on moving in that direction is a logical step. We should see adapters to single-link DVI and HDMI available, whereas converters would be needed for dual-link DVI and analog VGA. Connector change is always difficult, and hopefully the move to DisplayPort will be the last in a while and we can move away from the HD-15 and multitude of different DVI connectors once and for all. Of course, at this point, card venders will still need to choose to put DisplayPort connectors on their boards.

The lower end 3400 line will support Hybrid Graphics. This essentially allows AMD on-board and add-in cards to work together to render graphics. During 2D or low power operation, the on-board graphics will be used. When more horsepower is needed, the Radeon HD 3450 or 3470 will be able to work together with the on-board graphics chip to render the scene faster. This means owners of AMD boards with built in graphics will get more for their money when the buy a cheap graphics card.

While two times garbage is just more trash, we'll have to test this out ourselves to see if it enables the use of any more features, higher resolutions, or significantly smoother framerates. We wouldn't expect miracles, but if this offers a tangible benefit to consumers with low end hardware it's certainly a good thing.

AMD touts Hybrid Graphics as also offering lower power, quieter operation, and four monitor support in addition to the potential for faster graphics on low end systems. I don't know that we'll be recommending this solution for gamers, but it might be nice of an HTPC user who wants quiet operation, good video playback, and the potential to play a few games here and there.

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22 Comments - Last by Mazen, 694 days ago
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Hey! Derek's back. by Sunrise089, 748 days ago
I though you were gone from AI Derek - it seems like Anand has written all the recent GPU articles.

Looking forward to the dual-3870 card review any hour now...

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RE: Hey! Derek's back. by Furen, 748 days ago
If rumors are right, try next monday :P

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RE: Hey! Derek's back. by JarredWalton, 748 days ago
Derek's not gone... he just doesn't respond well to pneumonia (among other things). Welcome back to the land of the living - try to stick around a while!

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RE: Hey! Derek's back. by crimson117, 748 days ago
Jarred, in the future it would be kind of you to keep Derek's antivirus signatures up to date.

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RE: Hey! Derek's back. by DerekWilson, 748 days ago
lol ... i had a flu and a pneumonia shot (didn't even know you could get those) that should cover me for the next year (flu) and 10 years (pneumonia) ...

10 years will be way too soon if I get pneumonia again tho. I like breathing.

Also, thanks for welcoming me back. I think I'll go actually start my blog now too ...

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RE: Hey! Derek's back. by TechLuster, 748 days ago
Yeah, the Inquirer is reporting a delay to next Monday.

However, Tom's Hardware "mistakenly" posted their review a couple hours ago, but they've since taken it down. The only benchmarks I got a chance to look at were of Crysis, where the 3870 X2 was leading the 8800 Ultra on high settings w/ no AA. Here are the numbers they got:

1680x1050:
3780 X2: 33.3
8800 Ultra: 32.6
8800 GTS 512: 30.4
3870: 23.3

1920x1200:
3870 X2: 29.6
8800 Ultra: 27.1
8800 GTS 512: 25.5
3870: 19.2

They also gave figures with AA (which typically doesn't and didn't in this case favor the R600 architecture), but these generally weren't playable, and Crysis is a game that looks OK without AA. Considering that Crysis tends to favor the 8800 over the 3800 by more than the average disparity between these cards, I think these numbers bode well for the 3870 X2.

I kind of figured at the time that the review would probably be taken down, and I considered opening all the windows in tabs so that I'd have all the info before it disappeared. Now I'm kicking myself. Oh well, it's five more days.

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RE: Hey! Derek's back. by shabby, 748 days ago
I thought crossfire didnt work on crysis yet, so the 3870x2 should only be as fast as one 3870.

Btw how do these new cards differ from the 2400/2600, or are they just renamed ones?

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RE: Hey! Derek's back. by , 748 days ago
Passive Cooling? by themadmilkman, 748 days ago
Do these cards REALLY need active cooling? Judging by the size of the heatsink and fan, and the size of heatsinks on other cards that have been replaced with passive cooling, it doesn't seem like these cards would actually need to be actively cooled.

I may be wrong, of course, since conjectures based off of one chart and a few pictures are often wrong. But if the 3650 performs well (I'm currently running a 7600GS, it should definitely be an upgrade) and a silent version is produced, I may have a new card.

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RE: Passive Cooling? by legoman666, 748 days ago
indeed. If a 8800GT can be passively cooled, then these cards can be passively cooled.

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