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ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT: Calling a Spade a Spade
ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT: Calling a Spade a Spade
Date: May 14th, 2007
Topic: Video Card
Manufacturer: ATI
Author: Derek Wilson
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Tessellation and the Future

It's no secret that R600 is AMD's second generation unified shader architecture. The Xbox 360 houses their first attempt at a unified architecture, and the R600 evolved from this. It isn't surprising to learn that some of the non-traditional hardware from the Xenos (the Xbox 360 GPU) found its way into R600.

AMD has included a tessellator on their hardware, which is able to take input geometry and amplify it before passing it on to the vertex shader. This is something that Microsoft is planning on adding to future versions of DirectX as well, but in the meantime developers will need to take special steps to utilize the hardware.

The basic idea behind tessellation is in the subdivision of geometry. There are multiple algorithms for handling this process, and the R600 tessellator is capable of adapting to a developer's specific needs. The tessellator can take a polygon as input and break it up into smaller triangles, creating more vertices for a specific object. Taken on its own, this isn't particularly useful, but this concept can be paired with displacement mapping in order to reshape the tessellated polygon into something more like the actual surface a developer wants to represent (this is called the limit surface).

With low polygon models and lots of pixel shaders, normal maps and textures can approximate the look of more complex geometry, but we're always stuck with the very rough silhouette edge around the object. With more geometry, we could also better use pixel shaders to enhance the geometry present rather than trying to create the illusion of geometry itself.

We can't simply send millions of polygons per character to the graphics card. This isn't because the card can't handle the processing requirements, but rather the bandwidth and latency overhead of sending all this data to the hardware is too high. Tessellation and displacement gives us a way of really using the vertex shading power of unified architectures as well as removing the limitation on polygon count created by overhead.

While geometry shaders can be used for amplification and tessellators can be written as geometry shaders, this process is still way too slow on current programmable hardware. AMD's dedicated tessellator is capable of tessellating up to 15x more data and it can work much faster and more efficiently than a geometry shader set to the same task. With the next version of DX bringing tessellator hardware to all GPUs, developers should be able to focus on more interesting uses for the geometry shader as well.

Having this unit makes porting Xbox 360 games even easier for developers targeting AMD hardware. As most hardware still doesn't support the feature, a more general purpose path will still have to be written, but there wouldn't be any reason to remove what's already there. In these cases, R600 could benefit with greater performance than other hardware.

The downside is that it might be difficult to entice developers not already working with the Xbox 360 to touch the tessellator. It is definitely capable of high performance and terrific detail, but spending time on a feature only a small subset of gamers will be able to experience (for this generation) takes away from time spent making the game better for everyone.

We are always happy to see either hardware or software take a leap and create the first chicken or egg, but we just don't see the tessellator as a big selling point of R600. The technology is great, we're glad it's there, but we will really have to wait and see just how much (if any) real value this adds to the product. We'll leave this section on one final note about a tessellator landscape demo that really brings home what this thing can do.

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Calling a Spade a Spade by Creig, 1002 days ago
The R600 is finally here. I'm sure the overall performance is not what AMD was hoping for. Nobody ever shoots to have their newest product be the 2nd best. But pricing it at $399 and including a very nice game bundle will make the HD 2900 XT a VERY worthwhile purchase. I also have the feeling that there is a significant amount of performance increase to be realized through future driver releases ala X1800XT.

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RE: Calling a Spade a Spade by rADo2, 1002 days ago
It is not 2nd best (after 8800ULTRA), not 3rd best (after 8800GTX), not 4th best (after 8800GTX-640), but 5th best (after 8800GTS-320), or even worse ;)

Bad performance with AA turned on (everybody turns on AA), huge power consumption, late to the market.

A definitive failure.

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RE: Calling a Spade a Spade by imaheadcase, 1001 days ago
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Bad performance with AA turned on (everybody turns on AA), huge power consumption, late to the market.


Says who? Most people I know don't care to turn on AA since they visually can't see a difference. Only people who are picky about everything they see do normally, the majority of people don't notice "jaggies" since the brain fixes it for you when you play.

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RE: Calling a Spade a Spade by Amuro, 1001 days ago
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the majority of people don't notice "jaggies" since the brain fixes it for you when you play.

Says who? No one spent $400 on a video card would turn off AA.

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RE: Calling a Spade a Spade by motiv8, 1001 days ago
Depends on the game or player tbh.

I play within ladders without AA turned on, but for games like oblivion I would use AA. Depends on your needs at the time.

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RE: Calling a Spade a Spade by imaheadcase, 1000 days ago
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Says who? No one spent $400 on a video card would turn off AA.


Sure they do, because its a small "tweak" with a performance hit. I say who spends $400 on a video card to remove "jaggies" when they are not noticeable in the first place to most people. Same reason most people don't go for SLI or Crossfire, because it really in the end offers nothing substantial for most people who play games.

Some might like it, but they would not miss it if they stopped using it for some time. Its not like its make or break feature of a video card.

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RE: Calling a Spade a Spade by SiliconDoc, 216 days ago
Boy we'd sure love to hear those red fans claiming they turn off AA nowadays and it doesn't matter.
LOL
It's just amazing how thick it gets.

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RE: Calling a Spade a Spade by Roy2001, 1001 days ago
Says who? Most people I know don't care to turn on AA since they visually can't see a difference.
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Wow, I never turn it of once I am used to have AA. I cannot play games anymore without AA.

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RE: Calling a Spade a Spade by yacoub, 1002 days ago
$400 is a lot of money. Not terribly long ago the highest end GPU available didn't cost more than $400. Now they hit $750 so you start to think $400 sounds cheap. It's really not. It's a heck of a lot of money for one piece of hardware. You can put together a 650i SLI rig with 2GB of DDR2 6400 and an E4400 for that much money. I know because I just did that. I kept my 7900GT from my old rig because I wanted to see how R600 did before purchasing an 8800GTS 640MB. Now that we've seen initial results I will wait to see how R600 does with more mature drivers and also wait to see the 640MB GTS price come down even more in the meantime.

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RE: Calling a Spade a Spade by vijay333, 1002 days ago
http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=19970115

"the expression to call a spade a spade is thousands of years old and etymologically has nothing whatsoever to do with any racial sentiment."



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