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Conroe Performance Preview Follow-Up
Conroe Performance Preview Follow-Up
Date: March 9th, 2006
Topic: Trade Show
Manufacturer: Intel
Author: Anand Lal Shimpi
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Final Words

The performance picture with regards to Conroe hasn’t really changed all that much - on average we’re still seeing a bit over a 20% increase in performance over an overclocked Athlon 64 FX-60.  While it’s worth noting that these results should be taken with a grain of salt, we really were not able to determine any cause for suspicion based on Intel’s setups.  The machines were as clean as they could get, with the BIOS oversight having no tangible impact on most performance. 

Believe it or not, Intel doesn't seem malicious in their intent. The AMD system could be better configured by using a RD580 based motherboard instead of a RD480 platform, but other than that there's not much else that can be done to improve the performance of the system Intel used. Obviously we're not going to rely on these initial benchmarks for our final take on Conroe, but the scores are extremely interesting to say the least.

Conroe is supposed to launch in Q3 of this year, and here we are at the end of Q1 with some fairly impressive performance numbers.  What could happen over the next quarter or so? 

AMD will be launching Socket-AM2 in Q2 of this year, which will bring about more memory bandwidth as well as lower power consumption thanks to the Energy Efficient CPUs that will ship on the platform.  We have yet to see whether or not real world performance will go up as a result of the move to DDR2, but it very well may. 

On the Intel front, there is a lot of time for performance optimization with regards to Conroe and its platforms.  It’s also worth noting that the 2.66GHz E6700 we previewed here is simply a high end mainstream part, it is not an Extreme Edition flavor of Conroe.  At 2.8 or 3.0GHz, a Conroe EE would offer even stronger performance than what we’ve seen here.

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Nice Work by stelleg151, 1433 days ago
Great work, and Im glad you got that FEAR anomoly worked out. It is definately exciting seeing such a leap in performance.

That being said, I personally would have put a little bit more emphasis on the fact that these processors are still scheduled to be 3-6 months away, as this is in the most extreme sense a PREview and not a REview.

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RE: Nice Work by IHYLN, 1433 days ago
good job clearing the air Anand. And whoever was that person was who called me an idiot for saying the crossfire 1900xt setup was GPU limited, I snub my nose at thee.

Great job on intel's part for actually making a desirable CPU and I hope AMD can match or exceed.

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RE: Nice Work by Calin, 1429 days ago
At least a lower price will benefit everyone. As long as processor performance is concerned, AMD won't gain the crown easily. Looks like Intel will be on top again.
I say this is good, as prices for AMD processors were a bit static. I hope for a price war :D

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round 3... fight! by Darth Farter, 1433 days ago
looks like this round is going to Intel as it did with the northwood.

Let's see what the underdog will have in store for us.

I myself suspect AMD having much more focused on the quad core server arena where it's likely going to whoop ass the way conroe is doing now in regards with FP performance

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At last by Larso, 1433 days ago
This conroe thing is truly interesting news. At last Intel has dropped the netburst mishap and developed a useable cpu.

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RE: At last by Furen, 1433 days ago
Man, we didnt see so many people complaining about netburst when it was whoring the Athlon XP... I agree that it needed to be replaced but it wasn't all bad...

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Great work! by Spoelie, 1433 days ago
I just hope this lays to rest the extremely dumb comments I have been reading the past few days regarding this topic.

One thing tho I would have preferred to see Intel do, is use the exact same chipset on their mobo, as it is available for Intel systems as well, is it not? Would have taken away any last shred of doubt but I doubt it would have impacted the scores.

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RE: Great work! by chilled, 1433 days ago
That's unlikely given Intel want to be promoting their own chipsets which run XFire fine.

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RE: Great work! by Furen, 1433 days ago
Looks like Intel's "20% more performance than AMD" claims are true... right now. I wonder how many speed grades AMD can get out of its 90nm K8 in order to battle Conroe when it actually comes out. I'd guess two more speed grades is the most we'll see this year (so a 3.0GHz X2) which certainly wont make up for the ~20% (overall) performance deficit... so it looks like Intel will be spanking AMD at least until the 65nm shrink and maybe until the K8L comes out.

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nice work and update by yacoub, 1433 days ago
Aside from the fanboyisms from one side or the other, let's just state the obvious:

It's great to see Intel being truly competitive once again, taking the performance lead (once these chips come out to market).
In the meantime, AMD better have something on the AM2 platform that will bring them back within 5-10% of the Conroe performance if they hope to compete. It has been ABnormal that AMD has held BOTH the price and performance crowns in recent months considering that generally one item will have better price and the other better performance. After AM2's release it will likely return it to how it was a couple years ago where Intel held the performance crown by 5-10% and AMD had the better price. In that situation we will see a return to Intel by the money-no-object folks and AMD still championed by the poor and destitute (though I would include myself in that category for now). :)

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