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Lab Update: The Next SSD Article, Matte vs. Glossy and Touch Screens
Lab Update: The Next SSD Article, Matte vs. Glossy and Touch Screens
Date: August 21st, 2009
Topic: Storage
Manufacturer: Various
Author: Anand Lal Shimpi
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The SSD Relapse

I’ve been teasing everyone on Twitter with this for a while, but I’m really nearing close on the third installment of my SSD coverage. Right now I’m extensively testing TRIM on the major drives. Indilinx is the first out with official TRIM support...at least through a beta firmware. It’s currently enabled on both OCZ and Super Talent drives.


All of the text behind the next SSD article...just wait until you see the Excel sheet to go along with it

There are some limitations to TRIM. Currently the Intel Matrix Storage Manager drivers won’t pass the TRIM command through from Windows 7 to the drive’s controller. If you want TRIM to work at this point you need to use Microsoft’s drivers that come with Windows 7 (note that if you set Intel’s ICH to RAID, Windows 7 loads Intel’s MSM driver so that won’t work).

The benefit of TRIM is huge, your drive doesn’t get slower because of use, it only gets slower as you actually fill it. Intel was very careful/sneaky/shiesty to only enable TRIM on its 34nm drives. Real world performance is actually very similar between the 34nm and 50nm drives for desktop users. What makes the 34nm drive the clear buy is its support for TRIM.

I realize I haven’t said much about the 34nm G2 drives since their announcement, but Intel decided to sample after the announcement so I’ve been busy running these things through the ringer. Intel had to embarrassingly halt shipments of the drive to fix a BIOS password bug that resulted in data loss. I was actually quite surprised that Intel even let this one slip by but they’ve since put tests in place to ensure that it never happens again.

The most impressive advancements really come from the Indilinx camp. Not only has performance improved but Indilinx is actually the first to officially support the ATA8-ACS2 TRIM command. To show you the awesomeness of TRIM I've run a quick test. Here I ran my 4KB Random Write iometer script on a brand new, secure erased Super Talent drive sporting the 1711 TRIM firmware from Indilinx. I then filled the drive (simulating use over time), deleted the partition and benchmarked it again. Note that deleting a partition doesn't seem to trigger TRIM under Windows 7. You'll see that performance drops. Next, I formatted the drive (triggering TRIM) and rebenchmarked:

SuperTalent UltraDrive GX 1711 4KB Random Write IOPS
Clean Drive 13.1 MB/s
Used Drive 6.93 MB/s
Used Drive After TRIM 12.9 MB/s

 

Pretty sweet huh? You'd get the same results from the Indilinx Wiper Tool, but this one happens automatically. You get nearly-new performance without doing a thing. TRIM is awesome. The firmware is available from both OCZ and Super Talent but I’d avoid it until it hits final. The Indilinx Wiper Tool is more than sufficient for your TRIMing needs for now.

The WePC Update

I’ve done some writing on a couple of things that have been on my mind lately. The first being Glossy vs. Matte displays on notebooks. It’s something I tackled last year but it’s still a worthwhile topic, especially given the attention Apple is getting. I should mention that Apple has since gone back to offering a Matte display option on its 15-inch MacBook Pros.

The other point of discussion is the future of touch screens outside of smartphones. Apple did a wonderful thing with the iPhone, but now the OEMs are struggling to figure out where touch (and multi-touch) is useful when it comes to notebooks and desktops. Help them figure it out.

Head over to WePC and check it out, leave ASUS/Intel your feedback and you may just see your opinions productized at some point :)

More Ion Cometh

Between the next SSD article and Lynnfield I'll find myself with a bit of time to tackle a look at current (and one upcoming) mini-ITX Ion platforms. My question to you is: is there anything we haven't covered with regards to Ion that you'd like to see in that article?

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ETA? by acolona, 91 days ago
I have been waiting on your article to make my decision...any idea on an ETA? seeing all this SSD goodness is killing!

I have basically been waiting to see if you have an opinion on an intel G2 vs OCZ vertex vs OCZ vertex turbo.

I mainly use my machine for gaming, and audio/video duty...ripping dvd's, a LOT of video transcoding, and then multitasking for work.

If money didn't matter between these 3 drives, and you had to buy tomorrow, what would you suggest? What is the main tradeoff between an intel and a indilinx drive?

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RE: ETA? by semo, 91 days ago
Intel's main advantage right now is that even without TRIM it performs very well when worn compared to the others. Also, nothing can beat it in random writes at 4kb and it joins other SSDs at saturating SATA2's read bandwidth

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RE: ETA? by Anand Lal Shimpi, 90 days ago
Intel vs. Indilinx really boils down to this: random write performance (Intel) vs. sequential write performance (Indilinx).

In most single application benchmarks, there's no measurable difference between the two. There are a few cases where the sequential write advantages of Indilinx help a lot, but they seem to be rare (outside of pure sequential writes to the drive).

Ultimately Intel's drives offer lower latency for a random write. You're looking at 0.3 - 0.5ms for Intel vs ~1ms worst case scenario for Indilinx. Both are an order of magnitude faster than a hard drive. Theoretically the Intel drive should "feel" faster in normal use, but that's a tough one to quantify.

Indilinx had gotten so good that I even swapped out my personal X25-M for an OCZ Vertex just to make sure I wasn't recommending something I wasn't comfortable with. The experience has been wonderful; it feels slightly slower but it's difficult to tell if that's real or not. The benchmarks indicate it is but I'm not sure if my experience testing is what is making me hypersensitive to performance or not.

You can't go wrong with either drive. My pick continues to be Intel but the pricing works out in a nice way; simply pick the capacity you want and you'll find the right solution.

If all you need is 60GB, go Indilinx. If you need 80GB, go Intel. 120GB? Indilinx. 160GB? Intel. If price doesn't matter? Intel.

Just stay away from the Samsung based drives.

Take care,
Anand

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RE: ETA? by erikejw, 88 days ago
Any news on when Vertex(or any other Indilinx) will go 32nm,34nm?
At that point I am sure we will see decent price reductions.

I'd like to also see used drives in all benches since that is the performance that 95%+ of users will have and hence is of most importance.

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RE: ETA? by techvslife, 87 days ago
Unfortunately, the new 1711 firmware for Indilinx barefoot controller drives is causing massive data corruption on many Windows 7 systems (now discussed on ocz vertex, supertalent, & crucial support forums). The cause currently is thought to be the interaction of TRIM with ACPI on some motherboards.


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RE: ETA? by erikejw, 87 days ago
it seems bad but it is a beta so noone that was scared of his data should have installed it

they will solve it before any proper release

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RE: ETA? by techvslife, 86 days ago
Unfortunately, 1711 was NOT beta. It was beta only at some makers who caught the bugs only a day before release. Some SSD makers had already released to the general public as final.

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RE: ETA? by AbRASiON, 87 days ago
I agree with this ETA request, we're dying here with credit cards waiting.

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forgot by acolona, 91 days ago
forgot to ask one last thing.

I hear everyone say ssd's slow down as you approach their storage limit. How much are we talking...like 2-5%, or like 25%.

Reason I am asking, is my boot partition usually hovers around 50 gigs....so am I shooting myself in the foot by getting a ~60GB ssd? Do I really NEED a 120Gb?

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