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What's in a name? SATA II Misconceptions
What's in a name? SATA II Misconceptions
Date: June 20th, 2005
Topic: Storage
Manufacturer: Various
Author: Kristopher Kubicki
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Recently Purav and I had the opportunity to work with some retail "SATA II" drives as part of some upcoming articles. Even though we have known about SATA II for well over a year now, seeing retail drives has been really refreshing as Western Digital, Samsung and Hitachi all have units available [RTPE: "SATA II"]. However, the real surprise to us came when the majority of SATA II drives available right now are not capable of 3.0Gbps transfer speeds and others don't claim support for features we almost take for granted; like NCQ. The original SATA standard - usually referred to as SATA, U150, SATA150, or SATA I - gave us a peak transfer rate from the HDD interface to the system bus of about 1.5Gbps. Many believe that if SATA I drives have transfer rates of 1.5Gbps, then 3.0Gbps rates must be held by drives which have SATA II in their names. This is definitely not the case according to the SATA organization:

    "The first step toward a better understanding of SATA is to know that SATA II is not the brand name for SATA's 3Gb/s data transfer rate, but the name of the organization formed to author the SATA specifications. The group has since changed names, to the Serial ATA International Organization, or SATA-IO." - SATA-IO, http://www.sata-io.org

The three main misconceptions are that:

  • "SATA II" has now been renamed to SATA-IO
  • SATA-IO must support 3Gbps transfers
  • SATA-IO must support features like NCQ and Hot Plug

The SATA-IO, or SATA International Organization, specifies that the SATA standard has the potential to top 6Gbps transfer rates; four times what the majority of drives currently offer. While it is probably questionable if 3Gbps transfer rates are even obtainable outside all but the most intensive SATA RAID scenarios, the fact remains that "SATA II" - the name - has absolutely nothing to do with data rates. Also recall that even though a SATA device might claim 3Gbps transfer rates, 20% of the bandwidth is dedicated for parity in the encoding scheme of the bus - which is why we claim effective thoroughput of 300MBps as opposed to 375MBps.

SATA-IO claims we should identify SATA products in much the same manner we identify CPUs; by distinguishing the speed and feature set in the product description. From the SATA-IO website again:

Just because the SATA-IO committee identifies capabilities like NCQ and Hot Plug, they are not required by any standard; however, any device identified as "SATA II" or "SATA-IO" (also mentioned as "SATA Gen 2" in some documents) are backward compatible with SATA I technologies. Frame Information Structure (FIS) based switching supposedly enables smaller RAID stripes to obtain near 2Gbps transfer rates, something not yet capable on existing U150 SATA devices. Getting the word out to IT managers and administrators that "SATA II" devices are not always what they seem now becomes a large challenge for the SATA organization.

Since there is a clear possibility that manufacturers might offer non-NCQ "SATA II" hard drives - let this be a word of warning. Hopefully the market will load up all of the capabilities of SATA whenever a new device comes out, but we get the distinct feeling that purchasing a new hard drive or RAID controller will become a more researched purchase than it has in the past.

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17 Comments - Last by braytonak, 1658 days ago
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No Subject by ViRGE, 1695 days ago
I have to admit this didn't really make anything clearer. If SATA II doesn't require NCQ, 3Gb/sec speeds, or hot swapping, what would a SATA II drive that just meets the base requirements have over a SATA I drive(i.e. what's the difference between SATA I and II)?

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No Subject by KristopherKubicki, 1695 days ago
ViRGE: The difference between SATA 1.0a and stripped down SATA II seems to be the royalties go to SATA-IO.

Kristopher

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No Subject by AnnihilatorX, 1695 days ago
lol that's just plan silly.
The Serial ATA International Organization specifies a "specification" (SATA-IO) which is itself NOT a specification?

This ain't funny

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No Subject by Live, 1695 days ago
Very informative. Chosing a harddrive is getting very complex. Time for a big old roundup maybe?


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No Subject by flatblastard, 1695 days ago
I wonder if people just started saying "SATA II" much like we say "Xbox 2" or Playstation 3", to describe the next product for which we don't yet have a name for. I guess it caught on and caused a little confusion.

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No Subject by ryanv12, 1695 days ago
meh, my 4 year old IDE WD 120 GB hard drive is still chuggin on :)

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No Subject by bigboxes, 1695 days ago
So, basically SATA II will just be used as a marketing term providing little in terms of new and better standards. The HDD makers will just use it cuz they are able to.

Disappointing.

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No Subject by Pariah, 1695 days ago
"what would a SATA II drive that just meets the base requirements have over a SATA I drive"

There is no 2nd generation spec, so no one knows or can tell you. The features you listed were all expected to be in the spec so it looks like everyone jumped the gun and just implemented the features and slapped a SATA II name on it, since that what it used to be called. The SATA II committed broke up, and then reformed as SATA-IO, but it's too late in the game to try and change the name now, everyone is familiar with SATA II, so whether they like it or not, the features we have become familiar with being attached to SATA II is what it is going to be even if a real 2nd generation spec is released that is different.

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No Subject by JarredWalton, 1694 days ago
This is really like the days of "ATA-100" and "ATA-133" - the latter of which never was an official ATA spec. What will "SATA II" actually add relative to SATA? Higher burst transfer rates, which will mean very little. With 16MB of cache, it takes less than .1 seconds to empty the entire HDD buffer, and we can now get that down to .05 seconds! Woohoo!

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No Subject by ceefka, 1694 days ago
I feel a little lost here. This is actually sloppy work by these SATA-fellows.

I'm with #4: let's have a SATA roundup where HDDs carrying the SATA-II label can proof what they are really about. We should also include mobo support. To what extend do popular mobos with "SATA-II support" really support all the goodies?

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