When Samsung took the stage at the 2015 Flash Memory Summit, they admittedly didn't deliver any bombshell announcements on the scale of the Intel/Micron 3D XPoint surprise, but they still had a lot to talk about.

We knew that Samsung's third generation of V-NAND/3D NAND was on the way with mass production scheduled for the second half of this year. Samsung has now disclosed that mass production is starting this month, and that it's a 48-layer design with a 256Gb TLC being the first die announced. Samsung's current second-generation 3D NAND is a 32-layer design available as 128Gb TLC or 128Gb MLC.

With mass production imminent, Samsung has ensured that neither SK Hynix nor the Toshiba/SanDisk joint venture will be able to leapfrog them with their respective 48-layer 3D NAND designs, both scheduled for mass production starting in 2016.

Samsung says the new 256Gb TLC will have about 30% lower power consumption than an equivalent capacity of their current 128Gb TLC, and a switch to a dual-plane organization ensures that one 256Gb die will perform at least as well as a pair of the current 128Gb dies. Density is improved by about 40% while production costs only increased slightly, so price per GB will be going down. At FMS, Samsung is pushing the idea that their 3D NAND TLC is ready to replace MLC for most uses, and they're optimistic about scaling up their 3D NAND layer count past 100.

New Samsung 48-Layer TLC SSDs
Drive PM953 PM1633 PM1725
Form Factor NVMe over M.2 22110 and 2.5" 2.5" SAS 12Gb/s NVMe PCIe HHHL card
Capacities 480GB, 960GB, 1.92TB (2.5" only) 480GB, 960GB, 1.92TB, 3.84TB 3.2TB, 6.4TB
Sequential Read ? 1,100 MB/s 5,500 MB/s
Sequential Write ? 1,000 MB/s 1,800 MB/s
4kB Random Read IOPS ? 160k 1,000k
4kB Random Write IOPS ? 18k 120k
Endurance Rating ? ? 5 DWPD (6.4 TB model)

Samsung also shared information about three upcoming drives, all using TLC though not necessarily the new 48-layer parts. The PM1633 Enterprise SAS drive was previewed at CES in January and is intended for read-heavy workloads. A follow-on PM1633a model was mentioned to use the new 48-layer TLC to reach 15.36TB capacity, but we don't have any other information about that update. The PM953 is a enterprise NVMe drive in M.2 or 2.5" form factors, and is the counterpart to the MLC-based SM951. Of particular interest, the M.2 version is using the M.2 22110 form factor (22mm x 110mm, the maximum length for M.2), with Samsung using the extra space to implement power loss protection.

Meanwhile the PM1725 is a fast multi-TB PCIe expansion card that Samsung intends to use to challenge the assumptions about what uses TLC is suited for. Relatively speaking it appears to be intended for workloads that aren't very write-heavy, but it still manages 120k IOPS for writes. That just looks small compared to 1M IOPS for reads and a sequential read speed of 5.5GB/s.

All three drives are intended for OEMs, but the PM953 will probably find its way into the retail channel just like the SM951.

Finally, along with Samsung's new 3D NAND appearing in the afformentioned new drives, it will also be appearing in at least one of their existing drives. The 850 EVO, Samsung's current consumer TLC drive, will apparently be getting an update to use the new 48-layer TLC, though it's not clear if this will be new capacities and/or a wholesale NAND update.

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  • nathanddrews - Thursday, August 13, 2015 - link

    32TB of writes per day for 5 years. Yeah, I can't say that I'm too worried about TLC endurance. LOL

    Even though I know I can't possibly afford it - how much do you think the 6.4TB model will be?
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  • haukionkannel - Thursday, August 13, 2015 - link

    6.4 Tb... anything between 4000-8000$ Those bigger models are premium stuff so expect 1$/Gb or more... Of course it can be less, so 4000$ is not impossible, but not likely...
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  • close - Thursday, August 13, 2015 - link

    There's already a 16TB model announced so I think you should wait for that one. I know I will :)). Reply
  • nathanddrews - Thursday, August 13, 2015 - link

    I'll install it alongside my 80-core CPU. ;-) Reply
  • ddriver - Thursday, August 13, 2015 - link

    It's just a kidney away :) Reply
  • Kjella - Thursday, August 13, 2015 - link

    Not going to happen, similar drives retail for about $2000/TB so I'm thinking at least $10k even with TLC price reductions. You can get bulk SSD space for cheaper, but not the 1 million IOPS and 5 DWPD then more like 100k IOPS and 0.3 DWPD. Reply
  • eanazag - Thursday, August 13, 2015 - link

    It will be high, but I don't see how it will be $10K. This is Samsung, not Apple with the gold watch. I think it will be under $5K.

    It will have competition from 1TB drives under $200. 16 1TB drives at $200 plus a $650 RAID card come in around $3850 with much better performance. That RAID card will be choking. We are talking TLC, which will immediate scare enterprise at first.
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  • Kjella - Thursday, August 13, 2015 - link

    800GB = $1726

    https://www.cdw.com/shop/products/SAMSUNG-PM1725-2...

    Multiply that with 8 for 6TB and you're at ~$13-14000.
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  • Director12 - Monday, August 17, 2015 - link

    10K..I can remember when 15Mb hard drives cost that much. Reply
  • iAPX - Tuesday, August 18, 2015 - link

    I don't know how 16 1TB drives will compete with a single PCIe card.
    On a 1U you might put this card alone on PCIe bus, not the 16 1TB drives AND the RAID card (that will be probably 2X to 10X slower depending on the test!)

    On a 4U, you will be able to put 3 to 6 cards like this, able to compete with 48 to 96 SSD and 3 to 6 RAID cards. I would choose the NVMe PCIe card anytime.

    And I don't even take power consumption into accounts, with limited power supply, and cost of energy on datacenter (and problems to dissipate it). These PCIe cards are winners
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