What must AMD do? 8800 GT vs. 2900 XT

Alright, here's where things get really interesting. AMD has yet to come out with its 8800 GT competitor, but we've heard some rumors here and there. First, our understanding is that the RV670 based AMD part will not be any faster than the 2900 XT (and will likely be at least a little bit slower). While we can't confirm this, as we haven't heard from AMD on the subject or received hardware to play with yet (in fact if we had, we wouldn't even be able to bring up our speculation). But if we are right, then it makes sense to compare the 8800 GT to the 2900 XT and see what happens.

















Given the performance of the 8800 GT relative to the 8800 GTS, we can expect the 8800 GT to perform on par with, if not better than, the Radeon HD 2900 XT. Our numbers, confirm this for the most part. It's also worth noting that as resolution increases, the 2900 XT really closes the performance gap. This information is quite important. Either AMD needs to pull a rabbit out of the hat and surprise us with performance higher than we expect, or they need to compete with the 8800 GT based on price. We are hearing that the upcoming part from AMD should be competitive with 8800 GT pricing, but we'd need to see availability of the RV670 based parts at prices lower than the 8800 GT to make them start looking worth while. This could be difficult for AMD if NVIDIA hits their target of $200 (or lower for the 256MB version).

Again, none of the info we have on the upcoming AMD part is confirmed by AMD. We are simply speculating based on our best guess at their direction and rumors we have heard. Regardless of what AMD does or doesn't have in the works, it will be difficult for them to afford just another moderate showing. They must either clearly out perform or out price the 8800 GT to stay in the game this generation.

Getting Cocky: 8800 GT vs. the GTX Out with the Old, In with the New: 8800 GT vs. 7950 GT and 1950 XT
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  • Nick388 - Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - link

    Never thought the 8800 GT was this good! I found some really low prices at this website (http://www.videocardemporium.com)">http://www.videocardemporium.com), but I'm still unsure if I want to try to get two of these in SLI or go for the 9600 GT. Or maybe just slurge for the GTX 280 >.< Reply
  • sickish - Monday, February 25, 2008 - link

    Just ordered mine Friday, should be here Wednesday.
    I was lucky, ordered it from Newegg at $239.99 and it seems totally worth it after reading these comments.
    Oh and I checked again today and it seems Newegg is all sold out =]]
    Reply
  • mgambrell - Monday, November 12, 2007 - link

    geforce 8800 gt: the only card that crashes my PC in nv4_disp over and over and over.

    no matter which motherboard it is in or which OS is installed or which other expansion cards are installed

    no matter whose 8800 I use.

    nvidia you are now on my shitlist.
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  • gleblanc - Friday, November 09, 2007 - link

    It'd be awfully nice to have the axes of the graphs labeled. For the first set, I can guess that they are screen resolution on the horizontal axis, and frames per second on the vertical, but I could be wrong, since there's no labels.

    I also couldn't follow the page on comparing the 8800 GT to the 8800 GTX. Your conclusion seems to state that, "the 8800 GT doesn't touch the GTX." However, I can't come up with that conclusion from the graphs. They look roughly comparable in most of the tests that you've shown, with only a slight advantage to the GTX at very high resolutions.

    On the "Out with the old..." page, there is a typo in the second paragraph. In the last sentence, "fasted" should be "fastest".

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  • True Strike - Thursday, November 08, 2007 - link

    From what I have read here and else where this seems to be THE card to get. Before I make a purchase though, I would very much like to see more data comparing the cards offered by the different card manufacturers.
    Is Anandtech going to be doing an 8800 GT roundup any time soon? Do I have to beg?
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  • Manch - Monday, November 05, 2007 - link

    How much of an improvement if you SLI'd a 8800GT with a GTX? I know mix n matching is not optimal but the price difference makes me wonder. Would it fall between two GT's and two GTX's? I dont have any experience with SLI. I've avoided it because it's never been a decent upgrade path. Reply
  • hydrasworld - Friday, November 02, 2007 - link

    Ordered mine from Scan.co.uk - Gainward Bliss - £170 GBP

    O.M.G - it really is amazing.

    I bought 2x 7800GTX's (just before the 7900GTX's came out) at £660 for the pair and this card just blows them away.

    On my 24" dell monitor at 1920x1200 with 4xAA on an opteron 175 @ stock 2.2ghz i get average 125fps in Team Fortress 2. Everything else I've tried has been very smooth - world in conflict, bf2142. A *very* noticable performance increase at a billiant price!

    If you're considering an upgrade buy one of these NOW, play todays games at awesome speeds. then get a nice new intel 45nm quadcore + x38 + ddr3 in january when the products are released and prices will be lower.. Then if needed sell the gfx card and buy whatever nvidia are offering in january - if you really need too (which i doubt you will).

    Highly Recommended.
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  • rap - Friday, November 02, 2007 - link

    quote:

    First, our understanding is that the RV670 based AMD part will not be any faster than the 2900 XT (and will likely be at least a little bit slower).


    Info on the RV670:

    http://www.penstarsys.com/editor/so3d/q4_2007/so3d...">http://www.penstarsys.com/editor/so3d/q4_2007/so3d...
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  • ksherman - Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - link

    A great review, and a great part! Finally a video card that excites me. Too bad I ditched the desktop in favor of a laptop. Reply
  • Screammit - Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - link

    Most online retailers have pulled these items off their websites entirely, as I'm sure these cards have been picked up ravenously by gamers wanting The Holy Grail of video cards, as it seems this is.

    My question is, "Why so cheap, and why now?" for injection into the market, NVIDIA could have raised the price at least $50 (which most retail shops have already done to capitalize on its popularity) and still have a product that sells like crazy. This makes me wonder what is next, and if a better product is in the works that makes them want to get rid of this inventory as quickly as possible before the next big thing comes out. It may be (and yes, I'm reaching) that this card is on the low side in NVIDIA's new product line, and they can clear inventory at a price premium now as opposed to when the full line is released. They have little reason to throw out their best until AMD has shown their hand, and are playing the same game that Intel is, with their 3.0ghz processor that can easily be clocked higher.

    With this in mind, I plan on holding on to my money for now, partially because I can't even find one in stock yet, and partially because having this card at this price point doesn't seem to make much sense unless a full line refresh is coming, and this card is the weakest link, which is an incredible thing to think about, considering how good this card appears to be
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