Have you guys seen the PS3 Launch list? its HUGE, with lots of sequels albeit, but still much more impressive than the Xbox360.

I wonder what DDR will be link on the PS3 :P

DestruyaUR - Please, just about any piece of electrical hardware will be tested to determine a safe operating range.

ImJacksAmygdala - Don't try to tell me that the 'before' shot is representative of a good deinterlacing job, I'll bet money that is a worst case shot. The quality you get from the faroudja chip of FFDshow has everything to do with quality deinterlacing and nothing to do with upconverting (upconverting to native res is just a necessity for you fixed pixel size users, a good display should do a good job on its own.)

I still think the biggest problems with these consoles (both XB360 and PS3) are going to be overheating.

The MS Dev team called a heatpiped heatsink "watercooling," for God's sake.

They test these things in 68 degree or lower air-conditioned labs when they SHOULD be testing them in 85-90 degree non air-conditioned dorm room environments.

will do the same as #10

if they remake ff7 for ps3, i'll preorder one right NOW.

#65 You might want to look at this guide to see exactly what 480I upscaled to 1080I looks like...

http://htpcnews.com/main.php?id=ffdshowdvd_1

This is what you can do with Theatertek or Zoomplayer using FFDshow, but certain consumer DVD players using the Faroudja chip with proper upscaling can produce the same results. One of the most popular consumer DVD players that fit this criteria can be had for $159.99. If a console that costs $499 and plays games at 720p why can't it also produce similar results?

If these new consoles can't upscale DVD video to HD resolutions while we wait for Sony and Toshiba to hash out HD dvd video, and they can't surf the web I am not buying.

ImJacksAmygdala - Xbox upscans DVD's at least to 480P. If you have a decent TV, this will look just as good as upscanning to a higher res. Really, P.scan DVD isn't great, just a small stop gap before HD DVD (you can't make something from nothing).

I'm just hoping MS will be undercutting PS3 in big time in price when PS3 comes out, on account of the lack of BluRay/HDDVD. I really don't care to use my game console as a DVD player, especially if it's Sony's BetaMax 2006, but I will take a pricecut for the loss.

Did I miss something? Does it play DVD's or not? If it does will it upscale DVD video from 480i to 720p or 1080i? I will be a bit miffed if I spend $400 on a Xbox360 or a PS3 and it can't even upscale DVD resolution while it plays games at 720p. That would just be retarded.

And what about web access? Can I surf the web from my couch?

HD Games, upscaled movies, and surfing the web all from my couch. The first company that gets this right has the winning console that should be more popular than TIVO.

I guess I'll go back to spending money on HTPC parts and fighting compatibility and setup problems.

Neither of them were sucessful in delivering the last round of high end GPUs on time and in anywhere near the volume that these units will demand.
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Is IBM making both the processor and the GPU for the new consoles? Maybe they can do better than that Taiwanese outfit.. TSMC or whatever

just realised it is no longer needed to fork out £10 for a 8mb of excruciatingly slow memory card just to save your games.

money grabbing sony even used to ask for £20 for those mem cards when the ps2 first came out and there were no alternatives.

btw, i'm hearing that the ps3 will cost £200 (about $350) and i think that this can't be right...


can it?