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Mushkin Redline XP4000: Winbond with Voltage Be Damned
Mushkin Redline XP4000: Winbond with Voltage Be Damned
Date: May 16th, 2005
Topic: Memory
Manufacturer: Mushkin
Author: Wesley Fink
 
 


OCZ started it all with their VX series memory. Combine Winbond die chips with voltages of up to 3.6V and you can likely reach over DDR500 at the fastest 2-2-2 timings. That grew into a successful line of OCZ VX memory that ranges from Value VX to a VX rated at DDR 500 2-2-2. Value VX impressed us with bang for the buck in our Value RAM roundup, and DDR500 2-2-2 VX is the fastest memory (in terms of bandwidth) that we have tested on the AMD Athlon 64 platform.

Now, Mushkin has introduced their own Winbond chip memory designed for high voltage and DDR500 2-2-2 performance. It's a natural fit for Mushkin, given their long working relationship with Winbond. It was only a matter of time until Mushkin managed to put together memory that could give the OCZ VX a run for the money.

Whoever at Mushkin came up with the Redline name should be congratulated. It's nice to see a memory with a catchy name instead of confusing model numbers with even more confusing naming schemes. Even the bright red heatspreader "says" Redline. But in the end, buyers grab the high voltage memory and a DFI nForce4 (or OCZ DDR Booster) for the performance. So, how does Mushkin Redline stack up in the all-important performance area?

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41 Comments - Last by jermaink, 1593 days ago
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No Subject by screech, 1650 days ago
typo 2nd word o.0

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No Subject by classy, 1650 days ago
Great performance, but the price is really high. Especially considering the fact the OCZ 3200 Gold is not far behind and is almost $100 cheaper.

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No Subject by JustAnAverageGuy, 1650 days ago
P1: "OCZ st arted it all with their VX series memory."

P2: Redline is available as DDR433 (PC3500) p arts.

For these reasons, Mushkin Redline memory was only tested on the DFI LANP arty nF4 SLI-DR Athlon 64 Socket 939 test bed.

P3: The Mushkin Redline XP4000 was tested with the DFI LANP arty nF4 SLI-DR Athlon 64 Socket 939 motherboard.

We have found the 6800 Ultra to be a p articularly good performance match to NVIDIA motherboards

Don't worry though, all those macros are spelling error free ;)

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No Subject by Lonyo, 1649 days ago
Any hopes of some 2T command rate testing/overclocking potential-ing?
A thread has shown 2T makes very little difference to performance, but may help overclocking a bit, so mabye we could see if this stuff can be pushed even further?

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No Subject by Shinei, 1649 days ago
Which thread? As far as all AT benches have shown, 2T cripples performance on Athlon 64 testbeds...

Anyway, great review, but I gotta wonder just what we're going to be doing to cool our cases in a few years--active cooling for the RAM, northbridge, CPU, and video card (the latter two of which account for 150+W)... Why do I get the feeling that I'm going to turn on my computer one day, and there'll just be a tiny mushroom cloud where the case used to be?

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No Subject by flatblastard, 1649 days ago
Nice review....I couldn't help but notice that in most of the benchies that mattered, hi-po ddr400 2-2-2 was at the top of the charts. Especially OCZ Plat Rev 2 and Crucial Ballistix....kinda makes me wonder if DFI mobo with high voltage ram is just a big waste of time and money.

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No Subject by bersl2, 1649 days ago
#5: http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=28&threadid=1577496&enterthread=y

The point of that thread is to show that in *real-world* situations, the measurable effect of 2T over 1T seems to be no more than 3%. Also keep in mind that at 2T, you can OC the RAM higher and tighten your other timings, and thus you can OC well with 4 sticks or more than 1G of RAM.

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No Subject by cryptonomicon, 1649 days ago
VX/REDLINE/UTT is nice and everything, but I don't get why people will buy it since BH and CH based models are much cheaper and perform very similarly with a bit less voltage, and can also run stock at 2.6v-- which makes them incredibly flexible. best ram ever.

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No Subject by Zebo, 1649 days ago
As usual almost no difference with increased bandwidth:

At 2400Mhz same timings:
DDR400 though DDR533 are virtually identical, less than 5% within one another on the largest game, wolf.

It is'nt until you bump processor speeds (which I never liked this testing method for memory) do the numbers begin to change signifigantly with added bandwidth. Due to bandwitdh? nope, due to running 2.72Ghz A64 instead of 2400Mhz.

Anyway I think these sticks are a waste of $ for the most part. Primarly due to the fact you must push signifigant volts though them and fan them and maybe destory them if not well learned. Noise and only DFI can provide this voltage eliminates lots of people. One is much better off IMO with low volts TCCD or some crucial 8T running 2-2-2 ~200Mhz at low volts all day without the noise of additional ram cooling.

thumbs down to extreme modules.

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No Subject by Zebo, 1649 days ago
My above comments excludes cyber-athletes participating in cyber olympics. Mainly geared twards average enthusiast at AT.

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