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Corsair 4400C25: Taking Samsung TCCD to New Heights
Corsair 4400C25: Taking Samsung TCCD to New Heights
Date: January 4th, 2005
Topic: Memory
Manufacturer: Corsair
Author: Wesley Fink
 
 


Final Words

The Corsair TwinX1024-4400C25 was an outstanding performer in our benchmarks. This was particularly true on the AMD Athlon 64 platform, where Corsair set new records for top memory speed, top 1T Command Rate memory speed, and Top Performance. The Corsair DDR550 is clearly geared to best performance at the top of the memory charts and it succeeds in reaching that goal.

However, this fantastic top-end performance by the Corsair was not without some minor compromise, at least in the DIMMs that we tested. DDR400 performance of the Corsair was nothing special, with a number of other excellent TTCD memory modules outperforming Corsair at DDR400. It certainly appears in binning TCCD chips that the memory, which reaches the very top in memory speeds, is not the same TCCD that performs best at DDR400. However, the real performance penalty at DDR400 is really quite small.

Performance was similar on the Intel memory test bed, but we did not see the dominating performance on Intel that Corsair achieved on the AMD Athlon 64 test platform. On both platforms, below DDR466, there are other Samsung TCCD-based memories that will outperform Corsair. OCZ, G. Skill, and Geil in particular are clearly faster below 466. However, by the time that we reached 466 in the benchmarks, the Corsair TwinX1024-4400C25 was our new performance leader. The further that we went up the memory speed scale, the wider the lead for Corsair. This is mostly due to the aggressive timings possible with Corsair DDR550 at the higher memory speeds, since performance is otherwise the same as other TCCD that we have tested. For example, Corsair required 2-3-3 timings at DDR400, but those same DDR 2-3-3 timings still worked well at DDR500.

If you want the fastest DDR memory that you can buy for the AMD platform, then the Corsair is your choice, although the real performance increase over other top TCCD is very small. The Corsair reaches the highest levels of performance at the top, but with compromises in the DDR400 to 466 range compared to other top TCCD. We think that the compromises are justified, based on how very well the Corsair did at the top. We wondered if we might ever reach DDR600 in our AMD benchmarks, and Corsair blew past that with DDR610 at 1T and continued on to DDR638 at a 2T Command Rate. It even settled in with decent timings, 1T, and top performance at DDR590 - the fastest that we have seen.

For the fastest memory speeds possible, Corsair TwinX1024-4400C25 is your choice. For best performance at DDR400 to DDR466, almost any other Samsung TCCD module will do a little better. For DDR400 at 2-2-2 and top-end performance a bit shy of this extraordinary Corsair memory, you can choose Geil PC3200 Ultra X, Crucial PC3200 Ballistix, OCZ PC3200 Platinum Rev.2, PQI 3200 Turbo, or G. Skill TCCD. Your choice depends on exactly where you want to go with memory on your computer.

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23 Comments - Last by DonCornelius, 1844 days ago
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No Subject by bob661, 1862 days ago
Wow! No comments. Anyone out there OCing with this stuff?

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No Subject by Caveman2001, 1862 days ago
I would like to know the HT setting and what setting the ram was at (133, 166, 200) in the bios. I have a Neo2 and a powerstream 600W and the OCZ pc3200 rev. 2 and I can't get it to work at 230fsb let alone DDR500. I bought this stuff based on the reviews here and I'm starting to feel ripped off.

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No Subject by Furen, 1862 days ago
No Subject by arswihart, 1862 days ago
anandtech reviews are more and more praising a product as ultimate, best, etc... all based on in some cases, insufficient testing to say such things. granted all review sites do that to some respect, its just the conclusions pages are getting kind of narrow viewed as if they have a whole picture and are 100% sure of there recommendations, while often they haven't tested enough competing products or taken all of their recommended product's potential drawbacks or limitations into consideration. still, its a really good review site

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No Subject by Marlowe, 1862 days ago
Really interesting IMO.. But I would love if you could review the A-Data Vitesta PC4800 ram also. They are based on TCCD and have maby Brainpower PCB. On my P4C800 my 2x512 kit can do 2-2-2-5 at 220MHz and tops out around 275-280 MHz on 2,5-3-3-5, both on 2,85V. Well that's what I could do with my 3,0E and watercooling anyways :P Also they're quite affordable in comparison.

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No Subject by eetnoyer, 1862 days ago
Wow, another elitist memory review. As if TCCD weren't reviewed to death already. By the way, still waiting for that value memory round-up. Any idea when you will be able to get around to reviewing memory products that are useful for the majority of your users?

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No Subject by Wesley Fink, 1862 days ago
#2 - We used 5X HT at stock speeds, 4X HT for 218 and 240, and 3X HT for 267 up. All other settings are in the reviews.

#4 - With the huge number of memories reviewed at AnandTech, we feel comfortable in talking about relative positioning of tested memory. With 28 memories compared in performance on the Intel charts and seven different DDR400 2-2-2 memories in the AMD charts, there is certainly comparative info to draw conclusions. The Corsair 4400C25 proved to reach the highest FSB, but it was not the best choice in the DDR400 to DDR450 range. We state that clearly in our conclusion.

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No Subject by erinlegault, 1862 days ago
Maybe other PC4400 rated memory from other companies should be compared, especially the OCZ PC4200 Pt Series ram. All the ram used was PC3200, except for the PC3700 OCZ, and overclocked from the rated 400MHz to near 600MHz. The Corsair PC4400 memory was only overclocked from the rated 550MHz to 636MHz. I would personally like to see if any other PC4000 or higher rated memory could do any better.

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No Subject by HardwareD00d, 1862 days ago
I've got the Shikatronics PC4400 DC kit for my Athlon64, and I'd like to see that compared against the Corsair modules. It IS on the Intel side, and is the clear winner. Seems strange that you wouldn't compare the "priorly fastest" memory (per a previous review) against the new Corsair modules. This omission seems a little fishy to me.

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No Subject by Wesley Fink, 1862 days ago
#9 - No conspiracy intended. Our AMD memory test bed was not even set up when we tested the Shikatronics memory in June. We have stated many times that Hynix B, the chipsets used in the Shikatronics, does not generally perform as well on the Athlon 64 platform as it does on Intel. TCCD usually does better on AMD than Intel. Also the timings are 3-4-4 on the Shika which are slower than TCCD at the same memory speed.

Just to make sure we weren't blowing smoke, I popped the Shikatronics 550 into the AMD test bed. It did it's specified DDR550 on the A64 at 3-4-4-10 2.85V, which is excellent for Hynix B on AMD. However, I could not make it to even DDR560 as the memory topped out at 554 on the AMD platform.

We are testing new memory on both AMD and Intel, but we have not gone back to past Hynix B dimms for an AMD update, nor do we plan to.

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