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Riding the 64-bit Chariot: Choosing Socket 939 and Linux
Riding the 64-bit Chariot: Choosing Socket 939 and Linux
Date: July 19th, 2004
Topic: Linux
Manufacturer: Various
Author: Kristopher Kubicki
 
 


Hopefully, our debut Linux article scratched the surface on where Linux is going, and where it has to catch up in order to become a viable alternative to Windows in the near future. With that being said, it is important that we keep our Linux benchmarks as up to date as possible for new hardware, as well as focus on which new hardware provides stability and performance advantages.

Since the Athlon 64 architecture places the memory controller directly on the CPU core, the role of the northbridge becomes severely limited. The core logic still controls critical IO operations and features, but the general consensus is that chipset manufacturer and quality matters less and less. Today, we will attempt to prove if that is true or not with Linux. Not only must we look at raw performance, but also at driver support and quality. Keep in mind that since these hardware platforms were launched over a month ago, we should see stable and fine-tuned Linux drives by now.

Although modifying and recompiling everything provides us with better performance, we hinder ourselves with that approach, since benchmarks become very difficult to replicate. So, once again, we will be using "out of the box" configurations using SuSE 9.1 Pro (both x86_64 and x86 binaries). We want to give the opportunity for as many people as possible to replicate our benchmarks.

 Performance Test Configuration
Processor(s): Athlon 64 3500+ Socket 939 (2.2GHz, 512KB Cache)
RAM: 2 x 512MB Mushkin PC3500 Level II
Memory Timings: Default
Hard Drive(s): Seagate 120GB 7200RPM IDE (8Mb buffer)
Video AGP & IDE Bus Master Drivers: Linux NVIDIA Core Logic: 1.0-275
Linux NVIDIA Graphics: 1.0-6106
Video Card(s): NVIDIA GeForceFX 5600SE 128MB
Operating System(s): SuSE 9.1 Professional (32/64 bit)
Linux 2.6.4-52-default
Motherboards: NVIDIA NForce3 250 Reference Board
VIA K8T800 Pro Reference Board

We attempted to keep our test configuration as close to CPU/Motherboard/Memory Windows test configuration as possible. The only major change that we adopted for this analysis include the change in processor, IDE rather than SATA hard drive, and the NVIDIA GeForceFX video card. We opted for an NVIDIA card over an ATI card for these benchmarks primarily for 64-bit Linux driver support. We have a Linux video card roundup lined up for the future; so in that article, we can take a better look at where the particular differences lay in video processing.

Feel free to take a look at Wesley's breakdown of each motherboard that we featured in this review here.

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No Subject by gherald, 2031 days ago
I find it annoying that I can never seem to get this comments page to loads in Mozilla Firefox, the Linux browser of choice.

If you're going to write articles about Linux, at least design your site in such a way that it doesn't use wacky javascript popups.

Personally, I think you should just make it a normal web link and be done with it.

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No Subject by Gholam, 2031 days ago
Eh, I'm writing this in Firefox :)

Anyway, nice results. Looks like 64-bit support in applications is what it will take for A64 to battle P4 on it's remaining home turf (encoding). Then again, it'd be interesting to see these benchmarks include Nocona.

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No Subject by JasonClark, 2031 days ago
Wacky javascript links? Javascript is a standard, and with the popup manager in firefox/mozilla I don't see the issue. Enable popups for the site and your done.

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No Subject by mjz5, 2031 days ago
another reason to go the AMD route instead of intel

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No Subject by AlexWade, 2031 days ago
WOW! Finally, some REAL benchmarks between 32-bit and 64-bit.

And I must say, if gains were saw across the board with non-64-bit optimized code, imagine what the jump will be with 64-bit optimized code!

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No Subject by srMatanza, 2031 days ago
Another awesome article in an awesome series. I think it's great that quality linux benchmarking articles are finally starting to show up in reputable forums.

I can't wait for the linux video comparison. I think a good 64-bit distro review would also serve a purpose, especially if it focused on usability and maturity.

Keep up the good work.

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No Subject by Jeff7181, 2031 days ago
It's just too bad a crappy FX5600 was used for the gaming tests. Couldn't at least have dug up a FX5900?

Oh by the way... I'm writing this using Firefox as well... maybe someone needs to learn how to use Firefox's features that make it a "web browser of choice." :)

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No Subject by RZaakir, 2031 days ago
Javescript links are wacky no matter how you look at it. There are myriad ways to design links to work when Javascript is disabled.

Anyhow, I echo #5. I am very encouraged by the performance gains that we are starting to see. Around 30% on UT2004 is amazing. Hopefully Microsoft will get their act together so that we'll start seeing similar performance on Win32.

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No Subject by MNKyDeth, 2031 days ago
I am very glad to see linux benches from a reputable site for a change. It's just nice having some hard numbers/facts, that I can use to compare my hardware choices with. I am a hardcore linux gamer and would like to make a suggestion if possible. RTCW:ET and UT2k4 are great benches, but there are many other games you can bench with on linux like Savage and Quake3, UT2k3 and maybe even Medal of Honor:AA. It's just a suggestion to include more games if you do a vid card roundup on linux later on or even if it is just a small comparison.

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No Subject by tfranzese, 2031 days ago
"hardcore linux gamer", I'm sad for you. ;)

Anyway, there's no need to included UT2K3 when they've got UT2K4 to benchmark. Including Quake3 is old and tired. Is Doom3 getting a Linux port?

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