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System Buyers Guide: $1000 to $2000
System Buyers Guide: $1000 to $2000
Date: January 12th, 2009
Topic: Guides
Manufacturer: Various
Author: Wesley Fink
Buy the AMD HDZ940XCGIBOX Phenom II 940 Black
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AMD Performance Midrange

The introduction of Phenom II has made putting together an AMD Performance Midrange a joy again. While the Phenom was an honest competitor at the price points where AMD chose to compete, the poor overclocking of the AMD Phenom compared to Intel Core 2 dual/quad-core processors was always a nagging reality. Phenom II changes all that, and AMD in 45nm clothes is once again a screaming overclocker. We reached 3.9GHz in our testing for the Phenom II launch with a Phenom II 940 CPU. That same CPU is the starting point for our AMD Performance Midrange PC.

AMD Performance Midrange PC
Hardware Component Price
Processor Phenom II x4 940 Black Edition
(3.0GHzx4 125W 4x512KB L2, 6MB L3)
$275
Cooling Tuniq Tower 120 $46
Video SAPPHIRE 100251SR Radeon HD 4870 X2 $400
Motherboard ASUS M3A79-T Deluxe $189
Memory G Skill DDR2-1100 (PC2-8800) 4GB Memory Kit F2-8800CL5D-4GBPI $90
Hard Drive Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST310000333AS 1TB $110
Optical Drive LG BD/HD DVD / 16x DVD+/- RW GGC-H20LK $99
Audio Creative 7.1 Sound Blaster X-FI Titanium $90
Case Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower $100
Power Supply SILVERSTONE ST70F 700W SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply $100
Display ASUS VW246H Black 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor (1920x1080) $290
Speakers Logitech G51 155 watts RMS 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers $90
Input Microsoft CA9-00001 Black PS/2 Standard Keyboard and Optical USB/PS2 Mouse - OEM $16
Operating System Microsoft Vista Home Premium OEM $99
Bottom Line   $1994

You can read our review of the Phenom II X4 for additional information. The Phenom II 940 X4 at 3.0GHz is the fastest of the currently shipping AMD Phenom II processors. The Phenom II is very similar in L2/L3 cache configuration to the recently introduced Intel Core i7. Performance is also comparable to the best Intel chips. As the first 45nm AMD processors the Phenom II also overclocks very well, finally approaching the overclocking levels enjoyed by Intel since the introduction of the Core 2 Duo.

We've paired the Phenom II 940 with the superb ASUS M3A79-T Deluxe. At $190 the ASUS is not cheap or even a great value for a 790FX/SB750 setup, but it is one of the most loaded and best performing AMD boards we have used this year. ASUS loads the board with Gigabit LAN, IEEE 1394 support, four PCI-E x16 slots (dual x16, tri x16/x8/x8, or quad x8), two PCI slots, a single eSATA port, and six 3Gb/s SATA ports featuring RAID 0/1/10/5. The M3A79-T Deluxe also works very well with Phenom II and end-users will not be disappointed in performance or overclocking capabilities.

The ASUS also includes superb onboard sound with the ADI AD2000B 8-channel HD audio. This is probably the best onboard sound solution we have tested so far. A Creative 7.1 Sound Blaster X-FI Titanium audio card was included in the components mostly for game compatibility. You can save $90 and use the onboard ADI sound without sacrificing much if anything in sound quality.

The GPU choice is the top-performing Sapphire 100251SR Radeon HD 4870X2. This dual-GPU card is an exceptional performer on the 790FX chipset, as you would expect. The selling price has been around $500, but with current promotions you can buy this Sapphire 4870X2 for just $400. That is an exceptional buy that delivers top performance at a very fair price, and if you ever want more gaming power a quad-GPU (two 4870X2 cards) is an option, albeit one we don't really recommend unless you have a 30" LCD.

The Tuniq Tower 120 cooler was also used on the AMD Value Midrange System described on page 4. The rest of the components are the same as the Intel Performance Midrange PC. This includes the Seagate 1TB hard drive, the LG GGC-H20LK BD/HD reader and 16X DVD burner, the Antec Nine Hundred case, the Silverstone 700W PSU, the Logitech G51 powered speakers, the ASUS 1080p 24" 1920x1080 LCD Monitor, the Microsoft OEM keyboard/optical mouse, and Microsoft Vista Home Premium OEM. You can find more information on these choices on the previous Intel Performance Midrange page or on page 3.

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Amd performance midrange chart by elerick, 393 days ago
The chart shows $120 for the Phenom II 940 black. Should be a little higher.

Been a good read so far, still not done.

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DDR2? by Jorgisven, 393 days ago
"G.Skill triple-channel DDR2-1333 6GB"

Hang on a sec...DDR2? @ 1333?

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RE: DDR2? by Wesley Fink, 393 days ago
Both typos have been corrected. With the Phenom II intro there have been many recent price changes and configuration changes.

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Thank you, thank you, thank you! by 7Enigma, 393 days ago
I have (im)patiently been waiting for this review before I start the process of building my mid-range system and will be reading this article very carefully and hopefully the comments section can bring to light some extra info.

Thank you Mr. Fink

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Midrange? Really? by Jaramin, 393 days ago
Somehow, this doesn't feel very midrange to me. It's as if the class was defined by the price instead of the performance.

The value midrange aught to be performance midrange, and performance midrange is clearly high end, because one bumb ahead leads us to ultra-high end, you know, the machines we dream to have but would never buy?

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RE: Midrange? Really? by ifkopifko, 393 days ago
Exactly... I wonder where the low end starts and ends according to this.

Also... A little bit overkill PSUs in the value midrange builds, don't you think? And why oh why 16:9 monitors instead of 16:10?

But otherwise... good review... And now just the benchmarks are left ... :-)

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RE: Midrange? Really? by Wesley Fink, 393 days ago
Another possibility is Entry - under $750, Mid-Range - $750 to $1500, High-End - $1500 up.

The concern here is that there are still dream $600 to $1000 processors for sale. The LOWEST-priced Core i7 machine is still $2000 as a balanced system, and based on a $300 Core i7 CPU. The other two are $600-$1000. That, and another couple of higher-end Phenom II CPUs would shift the definitions again.

If lower prices fit your mid-range search look at the top systems in the System Buyers Guide: Under $1000 and the lower systems in this Midrange Guide.

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RE: Midrange? Really? by AntiM, 393 days ago
I consider midrange to be in the $600 to $800 price range.

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RE: Midrange? Really? by crimson117, 393 days ago
Would that include a midrange 19-20" monitor (~150-200), Windows OS ($100), midrange speakers (~$75), and midrange keyboard/mouse ($25)? That's at least $400 right there, leaving just $200-$400 for the rest of the parts.

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RE: Midrange? Really? by Wesley Fink, 393 days ago
From the Introduction:

"Midrange can start as low as $1000 and extend all the way up to around $2000, which gives a lot of flexibility in terms of choosing components. In this era of declining prices and increasing value, the midrange also covers a wider area than in the past - just as we saw in the under $1000 segment. Our budget systems near $1000 were really representative of what we might have called midrange in the past. Similarly, our $2000 system is closer to what may have been defined as high-end in earlier guides.

It's fair to ask, then, why we haven't tossed the price classes for our guides and defined new ones. That option was considered, but the fact remains that high-end prices have not declined like midrange and entry prices. New architectures have also been recently introduced at the high-end, so the definition of high and mid are shifting as the Intel Core i7 and Phenom II move into our computing space. We are already seeing a few X58 boards that will be selling for around $200, which would allow a decent Core i7 build at around $2000. Similarly, you can build a very capable Phenom II box for that same $2000."



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