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Intel's Core i7 870 & i5 750, Lynnfield: Harder, Better, Faster Stronger
Intel's Core i7 870 & i5 750, Lynnfield: Harder, Better, Faster Stronger
Date: September 8th, 2009
Topic: CPU & Chipset
Manufacturer: Intel
Author: Anand Lal Shimpi
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Overclocking Lynnfield at Stock Voltage: We're PCIe Limited

Remember the on-die PCIe controller? Yep. It's to blame.

Lynnfield is Intel's first attempt at an on-die PCIe controller and it actually works surprisingly well. There are no performance or compatibility issues.



The on-die PCIe controller needs more voltage as you overclock Lynnfield, limiting Lynnfield's stock vt overclocking potential.

Unfortunately the PCIe controller on Lynnfield is tied to the BCLK. Increase the BCLK to overclock your CPU and you're also increasing the PCIe controller frequency. This doesn't play well with most PCIe cards, so the first rule of thumb is to try and stay at 133MHz multiples when increasing your BCLK.

The second issue is the bigger one. As you increase the BCLK you increase the frequency of the transistors that communicate to the GPU(s) on the PCIe bus. Those transistors have to send data very far (relatively speaking) and very quickly. When you overclock, you're asking even more of them.

We know that Bloomfield can easily hit higher frequencies without increasing the core voltage, so there's no reason to assume that Lynnfield's core cannot (in fact, we know it can). The issue is the PCIe controller; at higher frequencies those "outside facing" transistors need more juice to operate. Unfortunately on Lynnfield rev 1 there doesn't appear to be a way to selectively give the PCIe transistors more voltage, instead you have to up the voltage to the entire processor.

Intel knows the solution to Lynnfield's voltage requirement for overclocking, unfortunately it's not something that can be applied retroactively. Intel could decouple the PCIe controller from BCLK by introducing more PLLs into the chip or, alternatively, tweak the transistors used for the PCIe interface. Either way we can expect this to change in some later rev of the processor. Whether that means we'll see it in the 45nm generation or we'll have to wait until 32nm remains to be seen.

The good news is that Lynnfield can still overclock well. The bad news is that unlike Bloomfield (and Phenom II) you can't just leave the Vcore untouched to get serious increases in frequency.

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Woa its out by Ben90, 154 days ago
Was reading it pretty casually thinking it was just a preview because i didnt think the NDA lifted yet.... then i saw a next page... looked at the tab and it has like 20 pages OMGOMGOMGOMG!!! ITS OUT LOL....Im gonna try really really hard to read the article before i go to the gaming performance though...prolly wont make it

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RE: Woa its out by Etern205, 154 days ago
NDA is lifted! Huzzah!!!

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RE: Woa its out by philosofool, 154 days ago
Now all I need is for Newegg to get in on the act!

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RE: Woa its out by boogerlad, 154 days ago
where't ta152h now? That idiot is finally done trolling.

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RE: Woa its out by snakeoil, 153 days ago
all the results of this review are biased because they were made with turbo enabled, that's at least 600 mhz overclocking.
to be fair you must compare this results against a phenom 2 overclockded at least 600 mhz
people is not stupid.

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RE: Woa its out by ClownPuncher, 153 days ago
"people is not stupid. "

Nice

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RE: Woa its out by goinginstyle, 153 days ago
Somebody ban this SnakeOil idiot.

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RE: Woa its out by ssj4Gogeta, 152 days ago
It's biased because Intel is giving you more features?? The whole point of comparison is to determine which is better. Next you'll say it's biased because it's comparing a Nehalem to a Phenom II.

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RE: Woa its out by MamiyaOtaru, 152 days ago
Why compare to a Phenom OCd by 600mhz? The Phenom doesn't do it automatically like the i7

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