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Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 Preview from Taiwan
Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 Preview from Taiwan
Date: June 6th, 2006
Topic: CPU & Chipset
Manufacturer: Intel
Author: Anand Lal Shimpi & Gary Key
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A few months have passed since our original foray into the world of Conroe, and official naming has been announced for the processor.  What we've been calling Conroe is now known as Core 2 Duo, with the Extreme Edition being called Core 2 Extreme.  Initial availability of the Core 2 Duo and Core 2 Extreme processors remains unchanged from Intel's original estimates of "early Q3". 

At this year's Spring IDF Intel made the unusual move of allowing us and other press to spend some quality time benchmarking its upcoming Conroe processor.  Unfortunately we were only allowed to benchmark those games and applications that Intel loaded on the system, and while we did our due diligence on the system configuration we still prefer to benchmark under our own terms. 

We're happy to report that we gathered enough parts to build two systems while in Taiwan for Computex.  We managed to acquire a Socket-AM2 motherboard equipped with an Athlon 64 FX-62 and a P965 motherboard equipped with a Core 2 Extreme X6800 2.93GHz at our hotel, along with two sets of 2x1GB of DDR2-800 (only 5-5-5-12 modules though), a pair of Hitachi 7K250 SATA hard drives, and two NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GTXes (one for each system) - it helps that all the major players have offices in Taiwan.  Of course we happened to pack some power supplies, monitors, keyboards and mice in our carry-on luggage, as well as copies of Windows XP, Quake 4, F.E.A.R., Battlefield 2, SYSMark 2004 and Winstone 2004. 

When faced with the choice of testing Conroe or sleeping , we stayed up benchmarking (we'll blame it on the jet lag later). The stage was set: Intel's Core 2 Extreme vs. AMD's recently announced FX-62, and while it's still too early to draw a final verdict we can at least shed more light on how the battle is progressing. Keep in mind that we had a very limited amount of time with the hardware as to not alert anyone that it was missing and being used for things it shouldn't be (not yet at least), so we weren't able to run our full suite of tests. We apologize in advance and promise we'll have more when Conroe launches, but for now enjoy.

The Test

In case we weren't clear: we acquired, built, installed and tested these two test systems entirely on our own and without the help of Intel.

CPU: AMD Athlon 64 FX-62 (2.80GHz)
Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 (2.93GHz)
Motherboard: nForce 590-SLI Socket-AM2 Motherboard
Intel P965 Motherboard
Chipset: NVIDIA nForce 590 SLI
Intel P965 Chipset
Chipset Drivers: nForce 9.34 Beta
Intel 7.3.3.1013
Hard Disk: Hitachi Deskstar T7K250
Memory: DDR2-800 5-5-5-12 (1GB x 2)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GTX
Video Drivers: NVIDIA ForceWare 91.28 Beta
Desktop Resolution: 1280 x 1024 - 32-bit @ 60Hz
OS: Windows XP Professional SP2
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133 Comments - Last by PCSJEFF, 1241 days ago
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Oh Hells Yea! by xFlankerx, 1263 days ago
Perfectly in line with older performance figures. Conroe's looking like a surefire winner.

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RE: Oh Hells Yea! by peternelson, 1263 days ago

And based on these performance figures,

a 4x4 board with TWO FX62 will vastly outperform a lonely Intel Conroe.

And for heavy I/O ie beating network and disk to death, Intel has not been shown to have the performance headroom. AMD I/O will scale nicely.

When Intel counter with quadcore, they will find their FSB even more limiting, at which point the wisdom of the Hypertransport approach will be evident.

Depends how quickly 4x4 comes to market (but said to be 2H2006)

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RE: Oh Hells Yea! by ShapeGSX, 1263 days ago
So you are willing to buy $2000 worth of processors to beat an Intel processor?

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RE: Oh Hells Yea! by rqle, 1263 days ago
if 2.6ghz beat out FX62, then a 2.4ghz conroe should equal the same, i rather take a $300 2.4ghz then a $1000 FX2.

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RE: Oh Hells Yea! by goz314, 1263 days ago
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a 4x4 board with TWO FX62 will vastly outperform a lonely Intel Conroe


Apples and Oranges... It will also cost vastly more than a Conroe-based system. Even if the performance of an AMD 4x4 platform is significantly higher, Intel would still have a significant edge in a performance/dollar analysis.

4x4 is currently vaporware and it's at least a quarter behind Intel's comparable quad-core processor roadmap. Conroe, on the other hand, is launching next month and will be available for a year before a 4x4 platform even sees the light of day.

Real hardware will always beat an marketing engineer's 'idea' no matter how good that idea looks on paper.

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RE: Oh Hells Yea! by bob661, 1263 days ago
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Real hardware will always beat an marketing engineer's 'idea' no matter how good that idea looks on paper.
Can I quote you on this and use it against the hypocrites? BTW, you got a link on where I can buy a Conroe?

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RE: Oh Hells Yea! by Josh7289, 1263 days ago
Why do you have to buy the processor yourself to know how it performs? Real hardware was used in these benchmarks. AMD's 4x4 does not have any real hardware available yet, so it is vaporware as of now.

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RE: Oh Hells Yea! by bob661, 1263 days ago
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Why do you have to buy the processor yourself to know how it performs?
I don't have to buy it but it does need to be available for purchase.

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MD's 4x4 does not have any real hardware available yet, so it is vaporware as of now.
Conroe isn't available either. So the vaporware argument could be used here as well.

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RE: Oh Hells Yea! by zsdersw, 1263 days ago
AMD's 4x4 is much more vaporware at this point than Conroe.

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RE: Oh Hells Yea! by peternelson, 1262 days ago

However 4x4 is NOT a year away it will be here in 2006 from at least three motherboard vendors.

As for pricing criticisms, the AMD processor prices will be lowered WHEN conroe actually ships ;-)

I'm just pointing out that with Intel conroe, you have nowhere to go to scale up without switching to Xeon platforms and they're not particularly cheap.

What a 4x4 AM2 system will let you do is obtain a reasonably fast system initially using ONE fx2, and LATER spend a bit more and you have a MONSTER.

This phased upgrade may suit people who get paid monthly and want to upgrade gradually. AMD 4x4 will provide that upgrade path.

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