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A Preview of Intel's Centrino 2 Platform
A Preview of Intel's Centrino 2 Platform
Date: July 15th, 2008
Topic: Mobile
Manufacturer: Intel
Author: Anand Lal Shimpi
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Today is an important day, it's the release of the long awaited Centrino 2 mobile platform (codenamed Montevina) from Intel. Unfortunately, product won't be shipping until August and review samples aren't exactly available so what follows can barely be called a preview. We'll take you through the components that make up Centrino 2 and give some guidance as to how it should perform, but we can hardly provide much in the way of test data.


Pretty slide, but where's the hardware?

Where's the Pomp and Circumstance?

For the first significant update to the Centrino name since it was launched in 2002, Intel really dropped the ball on actually putting substance behind today's announcement. The platform itself is what we've come to expect from Intel's mobile team, it looks to have all the right pieces and there's a good mix of innovation and steady evolution here - the problem is that we can't really even begin to test any of the interesting bits, there's hardly any hardware out there to test.

We contacted HP, Dell, Gateway, ASUS and even Hypersonic (a division of OCZ) - not a single company could provide us with a Centrino 2 notebook for review. Intel blames the lack of available hardware on issues with the GM45 chipset as well as incomplete FCC certification on the new wireless adapters. Both issues have either been resolved or are in the process of being resolved, but they pushed the launch back by at least a month; Centrino 2 was supposed to debut in June.

Instead we have today's launch, which isn't really a launch, but rather a release of information. Intel promised us that OEMs will begin taking orders today, but availability will be within the next 30 days. While we have no reason not to believe Intel, we can't help but feel that the launch itself could've been done better had Intel's mobile team actually gotten hardware out into the wild. This whole thing seemed very much like a launch that was set in stone, regardless of whether or not hardware was ready to go.

Of all companies, Sony actually came through at the last minute and shipped us a Centrino 2 notebook. Unfortunately, in its pre-release state the system is far from perfect. It actually draws more power than our Santa Rosa Refresh notebooks and we couldn't even get the GM45's hardware accelerated H.264 decoding to work properly, severely limiting what we were able to do here today. On paper, as you'll soon see, Centrino 2 is a steady evolution of what Intel has been delivering over the past six years. In Intel's usual Centrino fashion both performance and battery life should increase (albeit slightly), the problem is that we just don't have the hardware available to test it.

This may be a side effect of AMD not being nearly as competitive in the mobile space as it is in the desktop market, but Intel's desktop team would never launch Conroe, Penryn or Nehalem like this. Intel has been touting the importance of mobility for years now, yet Centrino 2 is treated like a second class citizen. Despite selling into the consumer market, we'd hate for Intel to learn from the consumer electronics companies of the world and introduce products as press releases, without giving everyone the opportunity to truly verify its claims.

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13 Comments - Last by gfxmatters, 493 days ago
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thoughts by Visual, 496 days ago
Shame on Intel for the crappy launch... and the whole lot of hype and noise about the "new platform" seems out of place to me, seeing as it is simply more of the same old.

The new integrated GPU is really the only big change to me, but I already have very low expectations for it. Nothing unusual, we're already used to Intel's GPUs being inferior to nVidia/ATI. Shame that the "platform" requires an Intel chipset.
The dynamic switching between discrete and integrated GPU has potential, but then again it may be completely useless if the discrete GPUs are able to tune down their power drain when used only for 2D or Aero.

I'm not too excited about detailed specs or performance numbers of the platform itself - "it's good enough" and "it's better than the old one" is all most people need to know and understand really.
I am much more interested in knowing what new things the OEMs are cooking. Will we finally get some decent GPU in a tablet, will we get multi-touch screens, will we get something like AMD's idea of 16x pci-express connector for external GPUs, etc... all things that are quite unrelated to Intel and the new platform launch - they have been possible all along with the old platform and I'm a bit disappointed they are still being delayed.

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Great for VISTA! by steveyballmer, 496 days ago
This revolutionary technology runs Vista like a champ but is not supported when it comes to apple and the cult people!

http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com

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Question by Penryn123, 496 days ago
Will new 25W CPUs also work in Santa Rosa boards? (drop-in replacement possible?)

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35W-25W TDP and Cache Size Comparisons by ltcommanderdata, 496 days ago
It'd be nice if you could also get a similarly configured system with the 2.53GHz T9400 and P9500 to try to ascertain the realworld battery-life benefits between the 35W and 25W TDPs. (I'd wish they'd just call the 25W TDP parts Medium Voltage, Mxxxx parts, which makes it more intuitive where they belong compared to LV and ULV parts.)

And maybe a comparison between a 2.4GHz SL9400 and a 2.4GHz P8600 to see how big a difference the loss of 3MB of L2 cache is. With a 1066MHz FSB, it probably isn't a big deal.

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New platform? by crimson117, 496 days ago
Not so much "new platform" as "new marketing opportunity for OEMs".

I don't mean to knock Centrino - the original platform really did move the wireless revolution along.

Centrino2 however brings nothing new other than upgraded (or downgraded!) components.

I think AMD went the right way by including graphics requirements in their AMD GAME! platform, but only time will tell. Centrino is such a strong brand name it might be hard to top. It would be nice to see a gaming-based Centrino.

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comment for page "The Lowest Power Core 2 Centrino, Ever" by MrSpadge, 495 days ago
Hi Anand,

you're writing:

"Note that here, while the voltages dropped vs. Merom, maximum current draw actually went up to 44A from 41A. This could be due to greater leakage, the higher clock speeds offered by Penryn or simple inexperience with the 45nm process compared to Intel's tried-and-true 65nm process upon its release."

It's much simpler than that. P = U*I, so if P=const (35W) and V goes down, I has to go up.

Regards,
MrS

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package info by Brian23, 495 days ago
I think your package info for the chips is wrong. 35mm^2 is smaller than the size of your pinkey fingernail. I think you meant to say 35mm x 35mm. That would be 1225mm^2 or 1.225cm^2.

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RE: package info by strikeback03, 495 days ago
actually, that should be 12.25cm^2

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G45 boards by kevinkreiser, 495 days ago
Seriously, does anyone know when G45 based boards will finally hit the market? The article mentions that GM45 laptops should be out within 30 days, but it seems like I've been waiting for what seems like 6 months for the G45.

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Shame on Intel? by nysupport, 495 days ago
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