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The Nehalem Preview: Intel Does It Again
The Nehalem Preview: Intel Does It Again
Date: June 5th, 2008
Topic: CPU & Chipset
Manufacturer: Intel
Author: Anand Lal Shimpi
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Final Words

First keep in mind that these performance numbers are early, and they were run on a partly crippled, very early platform. With that preface, the fact that Nehalem is still able to post these 20 - 50% performance gains says only one thing about Intel's tick-tock cadence: they did it.

We've been told to expect a 20 - 30% overall advantage over Penryn and it looks like Intel is on track to delivering just that in Q4. At 2.66GHz, Nehalem is already faster than the fastest 3.2GHz Penryns on the market today. At 3.2GHz, I'd feel comfortable calling it baby Skulltrail in all but the most heavily threaded benchmarks. This thing is fast and this is on a very early platform, keep in mind that Nehalem doesn't launch until Q4 of this year.

One valid concern is with regards to performance in applications that don't scale well beyond two or four cores, what will Nehalem offer us then?  Our DivX test doesn't scale well beyond four cores and even then Nehalem's performance was in the 20 - 30% faster range that we've been expecting.  The other thing to keep in mind is that none of these tests are really stressing Nehalem's integrated memory controller.  When AMD made the move to an IMC, we saw an instant 20% performance boost in most applications.  I suspect that the applications that don't benefit from Hyper Threading, will at least benefit from the IMC.  We've only scratched the surface of Nehalem here, looking at the benefits of Hyper Threading and its lower latency unaligned cache accesses.  We've hinted at what's to come with the extremely well balanced and low latency memory hierarchy of Intel's new baby.  Once this thing gets closer to launch, we should be able to fill in the rest of the puzzle.

Over six years ago I had dinner with Intel's Pat Gelsinger (back when he was Intel's CTO), and I asked him the same question I always do: "what are you excited about?" Back then his response was "threading", Intel was about to launch Hyper Threading and Pat was convinced that it was absolutely necessary for the future of microprocessors.

It was at the same dinner that Pat mentioned Intel may do a chip with an integrated memory controller much like AMD, but that an IMC wouldn't solve the problem of idle execution units - only indirectly mitigate it. With Nehalem, Intel managed to combine both - and it only took 6 years to pull it off.

Pat also brought up another very good point at that dinner. He turned to me and said that you can only integrate a memory controller once, what do you do next to improve performance? Intel has managed to keep increasing performance, but what I really want to see is what happens at the next tock. Intel proved its ability with Conroe and with Nehalem it shows that the tick-tock model can work, but more than anything looking at Nehalem today makes me excited at what Sandy Bridge will bring.

The fact that we're able to see these sorts of performance improvements despite being faced with a dormant AMD says a lot. In many ways Intel is doing more to improve performance today than when AMD was on top during the Pentium 4 days.

AMD never really caught up to the performance of Conroe, through some aggressive pricing we got competition in the low end but it could never touch the upper echelon of Core 2 performance. With Penryn, Intel widened the gap. And now with Nehalem it's going to be even tougher to envision a competitive high-end AMD CPU at the end of this year. 2009 should hold a new architecture for AMD, which is the only thing that could possibly come close to achieving competition here. It's months before Nehalem's launch and there's already no equal in sight, it will take far more than Phenom to make this thing sweat.

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110 Comments - Last by weihlmus, 441 days ago
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yup by 8steve8, 534 days ago
exactly what I expected.

imc was long overdue for intel...


can't wait to buy one, but I've been hearing us mere consumers wont be able to until well into 09?



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x264 w/ AutoMKV benchmark wrong! by Zurtex, 534 days ago
You've written:

"Encoding performance here went through the roof with Nehalem: a clock for clock boost of 44%."

But your graph shows the exact opposite. I'm assuming you just got the numbers on the graph the wrong way around, rather than your analysis mixed up.

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RE: x264 w/ AutoMKV benchmark wrong! by Ryan Smith, 533 days ago
Uh, sometimes bits get flipped when in transfer from Taiwan, yeah, that's it.

Anyhow, thanks for the notice. Fixed.

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Competition by BansheeX, 533 days ago
The performance conclusion might be a good example of why a monopoly is neither self-perpetuating or an inherently bad thing for the consumer. It IS possible for a virtual monopoly like Intel to be making the best product for the consumer. Perhaps the fear itself of losing that position is enough for such companies to not be complacent or attempt to overprice products, as it would open a window for smaller capital to come in and take marketshare. Just keep them away from subsidies and other special privileges, and the market will always work out for the best. You listening, Europe?

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RE: Competition by n0b0dykn0ws, 533 days ago
If Nehalem comes out and does run circles around current processors, then we're better off, right?

The only problem is that Intel is holding back on it's CPUs.

Without competition, Intel will only give us 'just a little taste'.

Me personally? I want the full strength version at today's prices.

n0b0dykn0ws

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RE: Competition by Rev1, 529 days ago
AMd is still competitive in the price segment of lower end cpu's, and after the PT4 debacle intel doesnt wanna loosen it's grip anytime soon to AMD.

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RE: Competition by Griswold, 532 days ago
Listenting to whom? Somebody as naive and clueless as you, who apparently believes breaking laws in the past should be forgiven and forgotten until there is no competition at all, because the market will magically make things work out perfectly for the customer anyway...?


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RE: Competition by adiposity, 532 days ago
AMD is not dead yet and is still undercutting Intel at every price point they are able to. Intel will not rest until AMD is dead or completely non-competetive. At that point we may see a return to the arrogant, bloated Intel of old.

All that said, their engineers are awesome and deserve credit for delivering again and again since Intel decided to compete seriously. They have done a great job and provided superior performance.

The only question is: will Intel corporate stop funding R&D and just rake in profits once AMD is dead and gone? I unless they get lucky in court in 2010, I think AMD's death is now a foregone conclusion.

Dan

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RE: Competition by Justin Case, 531 days ago
The chances of AMD dying are approximately... zero. The question is whether they stay as an independent company or get bought by someone else. Their IP and patent portfolio alone are worth more than the company's current value, even if they didn't sell a single CPU and didn't have any fabs.

The top candidate is Samsung, followed by IBM, followed by the UAE. But the real nightmare scenario is this: Microsoft buys AMD, and slowly makes its software incompatible with (or run much slower on) everyone else's CPUs. After that, they have zero incentive to improve the chips, because no one else can compete anyway.

Since it's been shown that Microsoft can violate antitrust legislation as much as it wants (as long as it pays off a few senators), this is not at all impossible. Be afraid. Be very afraid.


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RE: Competition by VooDooAddict, 529 days ago
That would be the beginning of the end for MS.

MS buys AMD? .... that would be the day I buy a fully loaded Mac Pro.

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