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  • Drumsticks - Thursday, September 04, 2014 - link

    I wonder if it would have been worth it to Microsoft to delay the Pro 3 until October for Core M. That's ultimately a 4 month delay though, so they might refresh it around February or March. It's begging for a Broadwell chip though; the Helix seems to be targeted in the same general direction but is obviously a little more traditional of a convertible. Reply
  • smorebuds - Thursday, September 04, 2014 - link

    Could be they're waiting for more Broadwell chips to come out so they can refresh the whole line-up. Reply
  • fokka - Thursday, September 04, 2014 - link

    ms would be well advised to jump on the broadwell and core-m bandwagon as soon as possible. Reply
  • mkozakewich - Friday, September 05, 2014 - link

    They seem to be releasing every 8 months, so Surface Pro 4 should be out at the end of February. Reply
  • rituraj - Thursday, September 04, 2014 - link

    The right move with the helix is that it's got broadwell core M. When I first saw they are releasing a newer helix, I was like "commmooon Lenovo, just when there is broadwell coming, you are releasing the haswell version just like the first one". But not disappointed this time. Just waiting and saving pennies. Reply
  • North01 - Thursday, September 04, 2014 - link

    Why is this?

    Helix tablet | 11.6" display | Broadwell-Y | no fan | 1.76 lbs

    Surface Pro 3 | 12.5" display | Haswell-U | fan | 1.76 lbs
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  • North01 - Thursday, September 04, 2014 - link

    *Correction: Surface Pro 3 has a 12" display* Reply
  • edwpang - Thursday, September 04, 2014 - link

    Helix has a keyboard. Reply
  • arsjum - Thursday, September 04, 2014 - link

    Helix tablet is 1.76 lbs without the keyboard. Reply
  • arsjum - Thursday, September 04, 2014 - link

    This is exactly what I was wondering and I am glad someone else has noticed it. Reply
  • mkozakewich - Friday, September 05, 2014 - link

    Who knows? Maybe Helix is using heavier parts? Maybe their case is a little thicker? Maybe the screen size has nothing to do with the tablet dimensions and it's actually a larger volume? Reply
  • SanX - Thursday, September 04, 2014 - link

    Meh...Is this a tech site or Engadget? Who the hell need 1080p displays on tablets?! Are you crazy? If you think you are not -- still go see the doctor and check your damn vision.

    The only interesting here would be new Yoga Pro with Core M and better quality (higher brightness, not a pentile with yellow fix) display.
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  • kyuu - Thursday, September 04, 2014 - link

    What in the heck are you trying to say? 1080p on a tablet isn't good enough, or is too much? Either way you're wrong, though.

    And Engadget is a tech site; they value quantity of articles over quality, sure, but that doesn't make them not a tech site.
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  • mkozakewich - Friday, September 05, 2014 - link

    Don't be so dismissive. I'm typing with my 10.5" 1080p Surface Pro on my lap, and I can still see every single pixel. Not that I could necessarily read 3x5 pixel fonts fluidly, but I could definitely see that kind of texture on a suitably-resolute image.

    Yes, 1080p on a tablet is necessary. I'll allow you your argument on the 5" phones, but not here.
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  • blzd - Sunday, September 07, 2014 - link

    Even on a 5" phone I can make out the differences between 720p and 1080p as long as its not more than a full arms length away. Is it necessary? No, but it is noticeable.

    Now 2k resolution you're on to something.
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  • blzd - Sunday, September 07, 2014 - link

    You can't see what others find clearly distinguishable? I think you may need to follow your own advice there.

    Last I checked I wasn't crazy, but perhaps in the end it will be determined that the world is crazy and you're the sane one.
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  • North01 - Thursday, September 04, 2014 - link

    I only realised this now, but the "basic keyboard" dock is similar to the ThinkPad 10's keyboard dock. The "pro keyboard" dock is similar to the original Helix keyboard.

    Basic Keyboard Dock - Image:

    http://blog.laptopmag.com/wpress/wp-content/upload...

    Pro Keyboard Dock - Image:

    http://www.theinquirer.net/IMG/106/297106/lenovo-t...

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    ThinkPad Helix (original)

    Tablet weight = 1.8 lbs
    Tablet + Keybaord = 3.8 lbs

    ThinkPad Helix (new)

    Tablet = 1.8 lbs
    Tablet + Basic Keyboard = 3.0 lbs
    Tablet + Pro Keyboard = 3.7 lbs
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