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  • jjj - Tuesday, August 19, 2014 - link

    Sandisk has been by far the biggest maker of TLC for a while now, just in cards and flash drives not SSD. So maybe they managed to do a good job here too. Reply
  • hojnikb - Tuesday, August 19, 2014 - link

    Wow, they actually made the TLC good enugh for SSD use. I remember you reported a while back, that 2nd gen TLC isn't quite ready for SSD use (Only few 100 p/e). Guess that changed.

    I also wonder what kind of write speeds thins thing call pull off when SLC cache runs out.
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  • hojnikb - Tuesday, August 19, 2014 - link

    can*

    Damn anandtech, come to 21st cent. and GIVE US THE EDIT OPTION.
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  • Kristian Vättö - Tuesday, August 19, 2014 - link

    It's also possible that SanDisk/Toshiba is keeping the best quality TLC to themselves, which would explain why some OEMs mentioned that A19nm is only good for 300-500 P/E cycles because that is the stuff they are getting. Reply
  • hojnikb - Tuesday, August 19, 2014 - link

    Yeah that is entirely possible. Well, either way, i would love to see some endurance ratings (not that it matter to a consumer anyway). Reply
  • jabber - Tuesday, August 19, 2014 - link

    To be honest the average Joe/Corporate user who is used to running daily off an old 250GB rust spinner pushing 60MBps would be thrilled with a SSD running at just 250MBps Read/Write and 0.1MS access times.

    If they were pumping out such drives at 240GB for say $70 I'd be buying in bulk.
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  • hojnikb - Tuesday, August 19, 2014 - link

    Well, for a 70$ mark we'll have to wait a bit for the process to mature, so it costs less to make. Or for 3D nand to become a thing for mainstream drives aswell.

    Either way, you can already get as of right now a 240GB ssd for 95$ (newegg -- v300).
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  • beginner99 - Wednesday, August 20, 2014 - link

    I have a 512 GB ssd in my work laptop! :P But yeah top speed doesn't matter really. Such a modern ssd is nice to have even on SATA-II Reply
  • isa - Tuesday, August 19, 2014 - link

    Still impatiently waiting for a mainstream laptop that has native PCIe NMVe M.2 SSD slot(s) - do we need to wait for Broadwell-H next July or so, or will such laptops be available sooner? If I've followed the news accurately, PCIe NMVe M.2 SSDs will be available around December this year. Reply
  • extide - Tuesday, August 19, 2014 - link

    You will likely have to wait, as the OEM's typically wait for new chips from Intel before they redesign their lineup. Reply
  • isa - Wednesday, August 20, 2014 - link

    What's needed at the chipset level for PCIe NVMe M.2 that's not in the current 97 series chipsets? Reply
  • MrSpadge - Tuesday, August 19, 2014 - link

    This could be a really nice value drive. Pretty much the only complaint I have is: if you call even your budget drive "Ultra", how is the user supposed to know which SanDisk drive is faster than the other? Reply
  • hojnikb - Tuesday, August 19, 2014 - link

    Yeah, Sandisk product naming is super confusing. Reply
  • BdyBldnJckt - Thursday, August 21, 2014 - link

    Hey guys. I am a SanDisk firmware engineer that work on developing this drive. The SanDisk branding is based on a "good, better, best" naming and works in the following way:

    Ultra: Good
    Extreme: Better
    Extreme Pro: Best

    It works this way across all product lines (SSD, USB, SD)
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  • BdyBldnJckt - Thursday, August 21, 2014 - link

    Again with the not being able to edit: worked* Reply
  • lilmoe - Tuesday, August 19, 2014 - link

    Samsung needs to make SLC 3D NAND PCIe/M.2 drives (20nm instead of 40 for density's sake). I would definitely pay a premium for those. Reply
  • hojnikb - Tuesday, August 19, 2014 - link

    Why SLC ?
    Everything is moving aways from SLC, since MLC is fast and durable enough.
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  • hojnikb - Tuesday, August 19, 2014 - link

    Away* Reply
  • Death666Angel - Tuesday, August 19, 2014 - link

    Looking forward to street pricing and a review / reliability reports.
    I hope PCIe devices (in a normal PCIe form factor) are going to be released as well though! I already have a 500GB 2.5" SDD, that's all I need to boot from. Give me PCIe storage for my other needs (games and "stuff"). :D
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  • Fujikoma - Tuesday, August 19, 2014 - link

    Why in the world, would I pay MLC prices for TLC??? I thought this was a Samsung thing, but it seems SanDisk feels it can milk people also. Reply
  • semo - Wednesday, August 20, 2014 - link

    Unless they can make these cheap enough for NAS fodder, I'd go with MX100 every time Reply
  • Kristian Vättö - Wednesday, August 20, 2014 - link

    Ultimately what matters is how the drive performs and that the endurance is sufficient. The type of NAND does not automatically make one better than the other -- the 840 EVO for instance is better than many MLC based SSDs on the market. Reply

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