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  • hojnikb - Thursday, June 12, 2014 - link

    Wow, finally someone other than samsung is showing TLC drives. About time.

    Although one thing really surprises me; I never ever though the newer generation TLC is only good for 200-300 p/s. Thats quiete low. Guess i'll avoid buying cheap flash drives with TLC then.
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  • extide - Thursday, June 12, 2014 - link

    Remember, that TLC is still in development, though. Reply
  • SleepyFE - Thursday, June 12, 2014 - link

    Yes at Toshiba. Samsung's TLC drives are up and running.

    I am also glad that more manufacturers are working on TLC. Brings capacity up and prices down. For anyone not trying to destroy the drive endurance is good enough. With higher capacity you can have more default spare area and thanks to TRIM the larger drive will likely last longer.
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  • SleepyFE - Thursday, June 12, 2014 - link

    ARGH!!! Forgot the commas. Insert where needed ,,,,,,, Reply
  • hojnikb - Thursday, June 12, 2014 - link

    In development as in what ?

    TLC is around for quite some time now, so its defenetly "developed".
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  • Kristian Vättö - Thursday, June 12, 2014 - link

    The A19nm TLC hasn't been around for long. MLC is always the first product to enter production with a new process node with TLC and SLC following later. The endurance will get better as the process matures. This isn't anything new -- it happens with every process node and for all types of NAND. Reply
  • hojnikb - Friday, June 13, 2014 - link

    What kind of endurance will they get with the older 19nm flash ? Reply
  • Kristian Vättö - Friday, June 13, 2014 - link

    Should be around 1,000 P/E cycles with the first generation 19nm. Reply
  • hojnikb - Friday, June 13, 2014 - link

    Wow, thats plety enough for pretty much everyone that's gonna buy this drive.

    I guess 200 p/e would be pushing it (especially given how marvell doesn't use compression), especially on lower capacities (it would die with 25TB of writes assuming 1.0 WA with 128GB capacity).
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