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  • silverblue - Tuesday, April 29, 2014 - link

    Slight nitpick - the Lumia 1020 does have NFC. Reply
  • Brandon Chester - Tuesday, April 29, 2014 - link

    Thanks for pointing that out. Should be fixed in the chart now. Reply
  • blanarahul - Tuesday, April 29, 2014 - link

    No 4K, no buy. Reply
  • yruf - Tuesday, April 29, 2014 - link

    4K of blurry mess? Why? Reply
  • nathanddrews - Tuesday, April 29, 2014 - link

    The GoPro Hero 3 Black has the same sensor size and shoots decent 4K (limited to 15fps, unfortunately). It's certainly no RED, but it has more detail than most consumer/mobile 1080p videos.

    4K recording at 24-30fps (and 1080p120) should be required on any flagship mobile device at this point.
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  • akdj - Tuesday, April 29, 2014 - link

    While I DO agree Nathan, unfortunately Samsung I all their mighty wisdom gives us an 8GB NAND on board storage system. MicroSD isn't nearly quick enough at this time to capture 4k/24/30fps. It would have to be stored, at least while 'shooting', to the on board...maybe as low as 3/4GB of 'leftovers' for your capture. At 4k/30, with decent compression (maybe 45Mb/s), you'll fill that 3-4GB in about six, seven minutes. That's assuming you've kept it bone 'stock' (no apps). MicroSD is about half the speed (Rd/Wrt) as regular SD/CF. Even for the 'fastest' MicroSD cards on the market. Hence 'part' of the reason the Hero is shooting at 15fps. RED can chew through 64GB SSD in 15 minutes with REDRAW footage. I've got a Note 3. 4k is incredible. Especially without OS. Easily crop a killer 1080p shot without Shake and it turns out brilliant. Just don't hold the shutter release down to long....as they storage literally is eaten for breakfast shooting that high. For now, with a P&S camera (w a phone built in;)) I'm quite fine w/1080p60. That's where I'd rather see them go, 1080p/120 or 720p/240 for incredible slow motion playback
    J
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  • nathanddrews - Tuesday, April 29, 2014 - link

    Excellent segue into my next complaint regarding NAND speed and capacity in flagship mobile devices... Reply
  • Barnassey - Tuesday, April 29, 2014 - link

    Incorrect with current UHS-1 and class ten µ-sd cards can handle it. Average bitrate for 4K video on android is aabout 75 to 90mBit a second which translates into 7 to 9.5 MB transfers in a second. Reply
  • jimjamjamie - Tuesday, April 29, 2014 - link

    moar numberz Reply
  • yruf - Tuesday, April 29, 2014 - link

    Tiny sensor, poor lens (f3.1 to 6.3). Why bother? Resolution doesn't really matter, they could have done 8MP with that quite nicely. Reply
  • piroroadkill - Tuesday, April 29, 2014 - link

    Same pixel size as the Lumia 1020 though. Reply
  • yruf - Tuesday, April 29, 2014 - link

    Which doesn't make it any better unfortunately. Good enough in bright sunlight, admittedly, but many mobile photos are taken in dark scenarios. For a phone with a focus on photo (sorry), I'd expect more commitment in that regard. Reply
  • akdj - Tuesday, April 29, 2014 - link

    Pixel 'depth' is the same. Significantly larger sensor on the Lumia (1/1.5 compared to 1/2.3" on the new Samsung). BIG Difference Reply
  • extide - Tuesday, April 29, 2014 - link

    The f3.1-6.3 sounds bad at first but remember this is a zoom lens. I is very expensive to make a telephoto lens with a wide aperture, I mean to stay constant even at f2.8 would be a lens costing nearly a thousand dollars! Reply
  • Impulses - Tuesday, April 29, 2014 - link

    Bright or constant aperture zoom lenses for DSLR and cameras with larger sensors are expensive, it shouldn't be a big deal on a sensor this tiny tho. Canon S110, Panasonic LF1 & LX7, etc are all cheap and have way more useful lenses (not constant aperture but way brighter thru their 3x to 7x range). Heck, most smartphones have brighter lenses, single focal length obviously but still. 10x zoom with a tiny sensor behind it on a bulky phone seems rather pointless to me. Reply
  • Impulses - Tuesday, April 29, 2014 - link

    Twice as thick as flagship phones too, I might as well carry a better camera in my other pocket (a cheaper S120/LF1 with a 1/1.7" 12MP sensor and brighter lens, or a 1" sensor RX100). Their insistence on big zooms is really holding all their hybrid designs back, I get that it's an easily marketed spec but c'mon... Reply
  • nerd1 - Tuesday, April 29, 2014 - link

    So you think 16mm phone is too thick so you will carry a phone AND 30mm thick camera?

    Big zoom is essential for P&S BTW, as smartphone cameras are quite good already and it is very hard to differentiate unless you cram a huge sensor.
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  • nerd1 - Tuesday, April 29, 2014 - link

    Pixel binning high-MP sensor usually results in BETTER image than low-MP sensor.
    And I haven't seen any 10X zoom camera that is thinner than 2cm and has brighter lens.
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  • voodoobunny - Tuesday, April 29, 2014 - link

    Is there any chance at all that this is waterproof like the Galaxy S5? (unlikely, I know, but still worth asking). If it were waterproof then this would be a winner! Reply

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