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  • npz - Tuesday, April 08, 2014 - link

    Interesting. The ads and somewhat resource intensive software (any piece requires loading a ton of other components) turn me off, but I like their wide ranging support. Their PowerDirector 12 is the only editing and authoring program I'm aware of to support both mkv and subtitle editing. But it still didn't support hi10p AFAIK.

    Now with HEVC support, I wonder if h.264 support has improved. h.265 higher end profiles specifiy 10-bit support and I assume Cyberlink also support 10-bit decoding for h.265. But I wonder about h.264. Do they support hi10p? Aside from color depth, what about color/chroma space i.e. YUV 4:2:2 and 4:4:4? I also wonder if subtitle support has also improved, or better yet, if they're using opensource libraries for handling it.

    It would also be interesting if you could do LAN streaming, where you'd use a PC to transcode and stream files to devices that can't play them natively or don't have the power.
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  • edzieba - Tuesday, April 08, 2014 - link

    "Their PowerDirector 12 is the only editing and authoring program I'm aware of to support both mkv and subtitle editing."

    Aegisub is kind of the Gold Standard for subtitle editing, particularly in MKV.
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  • npz - Tuesday, April 08, 2014 - link

    Yes I use Aegisub myself :) But it's subtitle editor, not a video editor Reply
  • Sivar - Wednesday, April 09, 2014 - link

    Yes, h.264 supports hi10p (with the x264 encoder). The benefit isn't increased color depth, however, it is increased compression. Reply
  • Dave12311231 - Tuesday, April 08, 2014 - link

    Hey everyone. I've just played back a 4k video downloaded from YouTube and it played flawlessly on Windows Media Player (Windows 8.1) and an Ivybridge CPU, better than VLC where the video looked jerky and some frames were dropped. I was amazed and impressed. Video was Costa Rica 4k. Reply
  • nathanddrews - Tuesday, April 08, 2014 - link

    Just remember that 4K videos on YouTube aren't a very high bit rate and typically lower than 1080p Blu-ray. I always opt to stream YouTube at 2160p if given the option. Reply
  • dylan522p - Tuesday, April 08, 2014 - link

    Yup, I don't have a 4k screen, but 4k Youtube is about as good as a medium bitrate 1080p video once downs-sampled. Reply
  • Aberforth - Tuesday, April 08, 2014 - link

    Yes, when there is no other feature that you can come up with then use cloud as an excuse to sell your product, even winzip has that "cloud" feature. I don't know why you wankers promote these stupid products when there are perfectly free alternatives available. Reply
  • ganeshts - Tuesday, April 08, 2014 - link

    What is the 'perfectly free alternative' on a PC for playback of Blu-rays with menus and all associated licenses in-place / support for UltraViolet playback? Reply
  • nathanddrews - Thursday, April 10, 2014 - link

    What I don't understand is why anyone would want all that crap. Previews, menus, BDLive, games and all that just interfere with the whole process of trying to enjoy a movie. Extract the videos you want to your container of choice and play through any free player (XBMC, VLC, MPC, etc.). It's like Netflix, but perfect quality. Reply
  • EdgeOfDetroit - Friday, April 11, 2014 - link

    Here's my "cloud". It lets me take my content anywhere I go! And for the number of GB, its half the price of their $1 per gigabyte model, after I've had it for a year: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8... Reply
  • brucek2 - Wednesday, April 09, 2014 - link

    I'd settle for knowing just the "playback of Blu-rays with menus" part. Reply
  • knightracer - Tuesday, April 08, 2014 - link

    At these prices, I'd rather buy a dedicated Blu-Ray player. PowerDVD is still too resource intensive with many processes. Reply
  • djnforce9 - Thursday, April 10, 2014 - link

    It's a great solution for playing BluRay movies on your PC if you don't want to purchase something separate. Unfortunately there is nothing built into Windows that allows it. Reply
  • Wolfpup - Tuesday, April 08, 2014 - link

    All I want from the Windows version is a good DVD/Blu Ray player that works 100% reliably and gets out of the way.

    From the mobile versions I want something that can (in the case of Windows RT) playback at least DVDs if not also Blu Rays, and MPEG2 from my Tivo...the "cloud" stuff and whatever is utterly meaningless to me.
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  • ssiu - Tuesday, April 08, 2014 - link

    What is the minimum hardware requirement for smooth software HEVC/H.265 decoding/playback? Reply
  • ganeshts - Tuesday, April 08, 2014 - link

    Depends on what resolution you are looking at. Pretty sure a Sandy Bridge i3 is good enough for 1080p24. Still trying to collect test streams for various resolutions and frame rates to get a good idea. HEVC is still in its infancy, though -- we are not sure yet what the encoding parameters that will be used to create the media files will be. Reply
  • sajara - Tuesday, April 08, 2014 - link

    From my own tests since x265 came out in September HEVC still has a long way to go compared to x264 encoder, but in only 7 months months has improved massively in development. The next branch will deal with quality so lets see how long till HEVC stops to be only a nice marketing jargon. Reply
  • ToTTenTranz - Tuesday, April 08, 2014 - link

    So let me get this straight:

    - The "standard version" only plays DVDs but costs almost as much as a standalone BluRay player with all the hardware (optical drive, SoC, motherboard, power supply, case, remote), software licenses, etc.
    Besides, isn't DVD playback free with windows nowadays?

    - The "Pro version" plays blurays but doesn't support 3D and downmixes all original 7.1 content into 5.1 (probably spending CPU/energy resources into decoding a TrueHD/DTS-HD just to drop 2 channels and send a 5.1 LPCM instead).
    It costs almost the same as a full-fledged standalone BluRay player that will play 3D content and won't castrate the sound for people who have a 7.1 setup.

    - The "Ultra Version" is more expensive than many standalone BluRay players that offer practically the same functionality.. except that it's just a piece of software.

    So what's the pirated/purchased ratio on this? 1 Million to 1?
    Do people actually buy this?

    HEVC support has been around for ages in free and open-source software. Why would any capable-of-using-google person would want to pay for this?
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  • abrogan - Tuesday, April 08, 2014 - link

    I totally agree.

    This company has no shame. After forcing me to pay twice to continue having blu-ray support, I won't buy their products ever again. Also forced their customers to pay for windows 8 support eventhough it would work fine if it didn't self check and disable itself. (planned obsolescence, nothing more) Buy a blu-ray player to watch blu-rays. Don't use a computer. And shame on the companies that created the blu-ray format, that they didn't have the foresight to release a free blu-ray application when they released the format. Short-sighted stupidity killed the platform. I didn't experience any of these aggravations with the DVD standard.....
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  • abrogan - Tuesday, April 08, 2014 - link

    45 dollars a year so that you can continue to watch your blu-rays on your computer... what a joke! Reply
  • Deelron - Tuesday, April 08, 2014 - link

    Agreed, it's sad that it's easier and more cost effective to get a lifetime license for a program that removes copy protection schemes (specifically for Blu-Ray) then it its to try and have a "legitimate" software player. Reply
  • Flunk - Wednesday, April 09, 2014 - link

    Microsoft charges for Bluray and DVD playback because they need to pay for the licensing. In Windows 7 very few people used the built-in codecs so they decided to try and save money and sell them for $9.99. $9.99 isn't so bad, I think it's pretty close to cost. Reply
  • HardwareDufus - Thursday, April 10, 2014 - link

    You can't purchase BluRay Playback in Windows 7 for $9.99.
    There is no way to enable Windows Media Player in Windows 7 to playback BluRay.
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  • HardwareDufus - Thursday, April 10, 2014 - link

    What I mean to say is.. .you cannot enable the Stock Windows Media Player that comes with Windows 7 (any addition.. I have Ultimate) to play back BluRay... There is no Codec purchase option available from Microsoft.

    You have to go 3rd party...at which point you might as well use a 3rd party player too.
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  • HardwareDufus - Thursday, April 10, 2014 - link

    I hope you guys are following what I've typed.... I've presented it as clear as mud... Sorry.

    My point was, whereas previously purchasing an Ultimate Edition of Windows gave you near endless play back capability of DVD content.... Microsoft washed its hands of BluRay and other advanced codecs. You have to go elsewhere... 3rd party... can't go stock... can't even go stock with options purchase... you have to go 3rd party.

    I use Cyberlink... and I don't like it.
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  • Morawka - Friday, April 11, 2014 - link

    And the only real affordable option they have is the Media Suite Ultimate for $150, which is 2 year old software missing the cutting edge features. Yes this company is hit with rampant piracy and with good reason, they just arent getting their product out there at a affordable price.

    Look at what steam did to slow PC Piracy, They made it easy to buy software and made it very affordable. PC Piracy has droped 500% in the past 5 years. Cyberlink needs to look at what valve did and make thier whole suite affordable. $50 max per program, unless its the Power Director (i agree it's worth more). and maybe $199 for all of the latest and greatest Ultimate Suite.

    But nah, they want $100 per, and the suite has 10 programs, so that's $1000 you'd have to spend to get the latest and greatest. Their equivalent to Office 365 subscription is only available on 1-2 products. They need to get real with the pricing is all i'm saying
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  • Morawka - Friday, April 11, 2014 - link

    And dont forget, everyone else will be rolling out HEVC support in the coming months, and cyberlink will start including the feature in the standard version to remain competitive. Right now they are the first to do it, so they are charging $50 more "because they can". Reply
  • ericore - Friday, April 11, 2014 - link

    My two cents,
    9.99 DVD and Bluray support inc. 3d for Windows Media Player 9,99
    Standard version with blu-ray support 19.99
    Ultimate version with everything 29.99

    Anything else this bloatware is a scam.
    VLC does always give the best quality, but it has videos filters :)
    WMP Classic home cinema, you will have better luck with.
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  • Morawka - Friday, April 11, 2014 - link

    They Locked H.265 Support to only the ULTRA and LIVE Versions, which is retarded. If you buy the standard version for $50 it should come with H.265, what a greedy company. No wonder its one of the most pirated software in the world.

    The $50 version cant even play blu rays WOW
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  • Krysto - Friday, April 11, 2014 - link

    Why adopt a proprietary format when VP9 exists? Reply
  • EdgeOfDetroit - Friday, April 11, 2014 - link

    Does it still take three months to encode one movie in VP9 format? Reply
  • DikAlex777 - Tuesday, April 15, 2014 - link

    Whenever I try to activate it, the following error appears:
    You cannot upgrade to Cyberlink Power DVD 14 because you do not have Administrator privileges on this computer. Sign in to Windows as administrator and try again.

    WTF??
    I am the administrator!

    What else does it need??
    I tried every option from this page
    http://www.cyberlink.com/support/faq-content.do?id...
    no luck!
    How can I activate the product I bought???

    Does Cyberlink support ever reply?
    I created a ticked 5 days ago, but they keep silent...
    Not good at all, I must say.
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  • Flunk - Tuesday, April 22, 2014 - link

    I have a copy of Power DVD 10 I bought about 2 years ago, it doesn't play more than half the blurays I've tried to play. For a $99.99 piece of software that's pathetic. Not only that they keep releasing new versions an discontinuing updates for older ones.

    All I wanted was a software player than could play all the same movies any hardware player can and what I got was an overpriced, worthless piece of junk. I wouldn't buy anything from this company ever again.
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