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  • dylan522p - Thursday, March 27, 2014 - link

    Man you guys have been so slow with the GTK stuff. What happened to hiring more people to do the pipeline stuff and the good writers like yourself here focusing on more important things. Reply
  • TETRONG - Thursday, March 27, 2014 - link

    ? The presentation was available on Twitch Reply
  • Ryan Smith - Thursday, March 27, 2014 - link

    Meetings. Many, many meetings. So we're still catching up on announcements, doing research, and talking to the respective groups for more details on their products. Reply
  • dylan522p - Thursday, March 27, 2014 - link

    Fair enough, but a short article like this should be passed onto lower writers and only proofed by you and Ian and Anand. Didn't you guys hire some people recently? Reply
  • dylan522p - Thursday, March 27, 2014 - link

    and jarred Reply
  • jasonelmore - Thursday, March 27, 2014 - link

    i think they can run the site without you bud Reply
  • Mondozai - Friday, March 28, 2014 - link

    "Fair enough, but a short article like this should be passed onto lower writers and only proofed by you and Ian and Anand."

    It's not just about doing a short summary, you have to do research, commentary, as well as ask follow-up stuff from the hardware reps. Just doing short summaries of what was said is easy, that's what most tech sites are for.

    "i think they can run the site without you bud"

    I think so to. Stop bitching.
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  • Friendly0Fire - Thursday, March 27, 2014 - link

    I like AnandTech's spin on things. I'd rather have considered and careful analysis everywhere, even if it means some of the articles aren't up as fast as they could be. This information won't self-destruct within 10 seconds of being given out to the press. Reply
  • chrnochime - Friday, March 28, 2014 - link

    wah wah. Too slow? Go read the news somewhere else. So much whining. Reply
  • nevertell - Friday, March 28, 2014 - link

    What gtk stuff ? GTK as in the crossplatform widget Gimp toolkit ? Reply
  • SarahKerrigan - Thursday, March 27, 2014 - link

    "Not shown on this roadmap, but still in the pipeline, is NVIDIA’s alternative K1 design utilizing their Denver CPU rather than the ARM A15."

    It's on the roadmap under the entry for K1. "64b and 32b CPU" is right there.
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  • CosmonautDave - Thursday, March 27, 2014 - link

    So, I was wondering if anyone more tech savvy than me could answer a question. The Jetson TK1 dev kit apparently runs Linux 4 Tegra (L4T). Since it is an ARM processor, would it be possible to get Android on there? Or will Nvidia support that? What about Ubuntu? If it was possible to run Steam on this, would it work for Steam In-Home streaming? Reply
  • jwcalla - Thursday, March 27, 2014 - link

    You might be able to run Android on there eventually, as soon as all the drivers are available. I think L4T is a spin of Ubuntu so that could be possible too; again, drivers permitting. There's no port of Steam to ARM yet, so that won't run. Reply
  • sascha - Friday, March 28, 2014 - link

    Yup, it's Ubuntu. Reply
  • daku123 - Friday, March 28, 2014 - link

    Yes. Android should run. By default it will come with ubuntu 13.04 as Ryan mentioned. I don't think steam will run out of the box until and unless valve ports it on ARM. Reply
  • grahaman27 - Thursday, March 27, 2014 - link

    "NVIDIA specifically notes that dGPUs are an option here, explaining the use of the relatively old Tegra 3, as it’s the most recent Tegra SoC to feature PCI-Express capabilities."

    why would anyone choose that option? the tegra k1 is 20x better.
    Reply
  • Meaker10 - Thursday, March 27, 2014 - link

    Because with an mxm slot you can theoretically pair in something like an 860m maxwell gpu in with dedicated vram which would slap around any mobile soc while having the system running lower efficient arm cores. Reply
  • jasonelmore - Friday, March 28, 2014 - link

    good luck finding 860m drivers for ARM. This is the rich boy's raspberry pi. i cant wait to see what people do with this. I'm glad to see it's shipping soon. this really highlights how bad channel backlog is when everyone else is 1 year away from shipping x64 arm cores and nvidia is shipping now along with apple Reply
  • SarahKerrigan - Friday, March 28, 2014 - link

    Mobile GPU's might be difficult, but Nvidia has drivers for essentially any modern Nvidia desktop GPU on ARM, including Maxwell; I assume that's what they're going for with the Tegra 3 board.

    http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-arm-display-arc...
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  • Anders CT - Thursday, March 27, 2014 - link

    It comes with a 12v coolermaster fansink. Reply
  • nathanddrews - Thursday, March 27, 2014 - link

    Anyone else getting irritated that GPUs are still 28nm? Intel, Samsung, TSMC, etc. will be going mainstream with 14nm this year. Where are the freaking shrinks, man?!

    /rant
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  • dragonsqrrl - Thursday, March 27, 2014 - link

    I didn't realize anyone but Intel would have 14nm ready before 2015. Reply
  • sascha - Friday, March 28, 2014 - link

    Definitely not TSMC. As far as I know only Intel this year. Reply
  • nathanddrews - Friday, March 28, 2014 - link

    My bad, Intel is going 14nm later this year and Samsung and TSMC made claims last fall of hitting 14-16nm this year, but it's looking more like Q2 2015. Reply
  • Anders CT - Friday, March 28, 2014 - link

    TSMCs 28 nm process has proved to be one of the most productive and competetive in semiconductor history. It is far from certain that future shrinks will improve a lot on this node. The days where shrink lead to automatic gains in performance, cost and low power might be at an end. Reply
  • barleyguy - Saturday, March 29, 2014 - link

    I think that just means that we'll see higher gains from the "tock" part of the tick-tock sequence at Intel. Tick, where the die shrink happens, may not have huge gains, but the optimization of a smaller process should always end up better than the optimized version of the previous process.

    And if not, we can just fit more cache on the same size die. :-)

    I'm considering one of these boards for an HTPC. I realize it's intended for developers (which I am actually), but if it can run Plex for Android I'd hook it to my HDTV. It should also be great for games, at the least the ones that will work with a gamepad.

    I'd really want a passive cooler for it, and a case.
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  • grahaman27 - Friday, March 28, 2014 - link

    As dragonsqrrl said, Intel projects 14nm will arrive 2015 at the earliest. But, you are right its frustrating. I bet 20nm will be very short lived considering 16nm FinFet should arrive in 2015 to compete with Intel. Reply
  • ddriver - Friday, March 28, 2014 - link

    A little sparse on connectivity.... needs more USB ports Reply
  • barleyguy - Saturday, March 29, 2014 - link

    It has two USB ports, a full size USB 3 and a micro USB 2. And the OS will support hubs. So I don't see a huge problem on the USB side.

    I would actually prefer more SATA ports though. One isn't enough.
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  • Jon Tseng - Friday, March 28, 2014 - link

    Jetson = Jen-Hsun?

    Interesting on FinFET. TSMC's first time doing 3D transistor so definitely risk of some push-out...
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  • Techhog - Friday, March 28, 2014 - link

    That board looks a bit too big. Also, does it need the fan? Reply
  • krumme - Saturday, March 29, 2014 - link

    Perhaps its just prepared for Denver? Reply
  • Anders CT - Tuesday, April 01, 2014 - link

    1) 127mm x 127mm

    2) No. But it will run better with fan than without.
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