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  • DanNeely - Monday, March 10, 2014 - link

    If these have 2 antennas as stated in the table, where is the second located? I only see a single external antenna. Reply
  • jobo11 - Tuesday, March 11, 2014 - link

    Zotac's site only says 1 antenna:
    http://www.zotac.com/products/mini-pcs/e-series/pr...
    http://www.zotac.com/products/mini-pcs/e-series/pr...

    Unless it has a special connector and antenna where there are 2 antenna wires instead. I can't find out which WiFi chip they use on Zotac's page. I wonder if AnandTech was told what chip they use directly by Zotac.
    Reply
  • Telithos - Monday, March 10, 2014 - link

    65W TDP processor in a case that size? I predict abundant thermal throttling or neat aircraft levels of sound (probably both). Reply
  • DanNeely - Monday, March 10, 2014 - link

    The second shows what looks a laptop style heatsink (the sort typically combined with a blower). The box is 7.4x2" in size, so I'd estimate the heatsink size as 3x1", vs 2x0.5" for the ones in the old 35W mainstream laptops I've dismantled before. That's 3x as large for 2x the heat dissipated, so as long as it's airflow isn't obstructed I'd think normal to below normal mainstream laptop fan noise levels are plausible. Reply
  • jaydee - Monday, March 10, 2014 - link

    Exactly. Get back to me when someone does full-load testing and see how gimped a CPU you end up with... Reply
  • Daniel Egger - Monday, March 10, 2014 - link

    I LOLed at "Gaming"... Reply
  • Guspaz - Monday, March 10, 2014 - link

    The system is substantially more powerful than a PS3 or 360 in every way, including memory, CPU, GPU, and connectivity. Do you also LOL at gaming on those consoles? Reply
  • bj_murphy - Monday, March 10, 2014 - link

    A gaming system in 2014 is obviously worlds more powerful than anything from 2005/2006. Why even compare the two? The PS3 and 360 are almost done their life cycles at this point, the PS4 or Xbone would have been a better comparison. Reply
  • A5 - Monday, March 10, 2014 - link

    Yeah, but that doesn't make his point look as good... Reply
  • Guspaz - Monday, March 10, 2014 - link

    Sure, but Anandtech has done enough benchmarks to illustrate that the 4770R is perfectly capable of 720p gaming at medium quality settings. You're looking at 40 to 60 FPS in most games there. Reply
  • Flunk - Monday, March 10, 2014 - link

    Who buys a "gaming pc" to play current games in medium at low res?

    I mean, it's just as useful to say it's much more powerful than the Nintendo Entertainment System.
    Reply
  • Hrel - Tuesday, March 11, 2014 - link

    Poor people Reply
  • Daniel Egger - Monday, March 10, 2014 - link

    Every time I tell people (here) that I occasionally play games on my 6750M I get laughed at. The HD Iris Pro 5200 is only marginally faster than that and yet this 3.5 year newer GPU is for a "gaming machine"? Does not make a whole lot of sense to me. If you look at the review here that thing is not capable of even running a single current game in FHD with more than 25fps and that's supposedly without the throttling that's certainly about to occur in that small housing...

    As it happens I'm currently checking out my options for a small living room PC capable of some casual gaming. Neither AMD nor Intel IGP solutions seem to be a good fit for that. I'll probably get one of the smallest desktop PCs I can get and will fit a R260 or similar into that. That should result in plenty of FHD gaming power... at the same price I might add.
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  • anandreader106 - Monday, March 10, 2014 - link

    You get laughed at by superior master PC gaming race.

    You game at med/low res. You are not master. You are amateur.

    I laugh at you.
    Reply
  • zodiacsoulmate - Wednesday, March 19, 2014 - link

    6750m is hardly a mbile gaming graphic card, it falls far behind desktop buddies, AMD name it quite high but it doesn't do a good job.
    There are a lot development goes into GPU optimization to make it run fluent on AMD/NV gpus, for intel it's still quite new to the gpu match, but intel is very mature at their chip designs, Iris Pro is good.
    Most of people play games on weak graphic cards, this doesn't make them amateur, a lot of esports player starts from very low end pc/notebook.
    R260 is not going to give you anything better than 720p medium, if youwant single slot, grab a gtx750ti(although i doubt anyone make a single slot one), if yôu want a short one, grab gtx670 or 760 short edition(MSI/Asus have those), it will give you suffice power to play 1080p 40+fps
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  • mobutu - Monday, March 10, 2014 - link

    When will these dumb manufacturers realize that at this small scale the only way to decently cool a 65W chip is to use the whole damn enclosure as a heatsink (as www.streacom.com does it)?

    Obviously, this zotac cannot cool it, the noise is to the roof and therefore the chip throttles thus not reaching its potential:
    http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/systems/67173-zotac-...
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  • Qwertilot - Monday, March 10, 2014 - link

    Not cheap doing a full body, passive cooling, case heat sink though. Much the best solution I agree :) Give it a couple more generations and I might be tempted that way. Reply
  • jup68 - Monday, March 10, 2014 - link

    http://www.hd-plex.com/ Reply
  • 8steve8 - Tuesday, March 11, 2014 - link

    we want iris pro in a little desktop, and are willing to accept a bit more volume to get a good cooling solution. this and the gigabyte pro should not have made it to the market...

    give me a gigabyte pro with an extra 6 inches of height with a vent with a decent cooler..
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  • Hrel - Tuesday, March 11, 2014 - link

    Looks like a pretty intriguing system. I was gonna put together a little NUC system for my bedroom (to hook up to the tv, combined with a NAS) but if I can just buy one that performs reasonably well I'll probably just do that. I look forward to a full review, preferably with a focus on durability and media playback functionality. Reply
  • jrs77 - Tuesday, March 11, 2014 - link

    I'm waiting for a small box of 5x5x5" with a 4770R, a slot for a 2.5" and space for a somewhat decent and silent cooler. And bring the price down to under €500. Reply
  • fteoath64 - Wednesday, March 12, 2014 - link

    If Zotac could just make the side cover (one with yellow circle) about 8mm thicker with hexagonal grill and a 120mm slim mounted fan, then it will solve the heat issue. This fan will push air over 80% the surface of the board beneath ejecting hot air off the side vents. This means the huge slim finned heatsink with heatpipes will cool the CPU better without the noise factor. That slight thickness do not affect Vesa mounting but does a whole lot for thermals and noise. Reply
  • headloser - Sunday, March 16, 2014 - link

    The only way i buying this if it is equipped with a AMD R7 250 card or nvidia version of it. Plus it must have the able to be equipped with a SSD drive.If not, not going to be bother. Reply
  • melk - Sunday, March 16, 2014 - link

    No HDMI? Why dual Ethernet ports? Reply

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