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  • twotwotwo - Sunday, January 05, 2014 - link

    That...is a rather GPU-heavy die shot. Reply
  • tviceman - Sunday, January 05, 2014 - link

    About time Nvidia took graphics seriously in mobile! Reply
  • Homeles - Monday, January 06, 2014 - link

    Nvidia doesn't really ever show "die shots" of their Tegra line. Everything they show off is doctored to the point where it stops being a die shot and becomes an "artist's representation."

    Here, for instance, they've copy-pasted some terrible little thumbnail of a "core" to try to portray the (stupid) idea that it's a "192 core processor."

    If you can't tell, I'm rather annoyed at Nvidia's decision to alter their die shots so much. Even their flagship GPU die shots are photoshopped worse than adult industry workers. It's been this way since Fermi showed up.

    Their Project Denver mockup (http://bit.ly/1d9zCMR) was a chopped up and regurgitated GF100. It's incredibly misleading at best, and false advertising at worst. Nvidia's not alone in this; AMD has done similar things as well (e.g. a supposed Cayman die shot, where a Barcelona die was superimposed on R770), but not nearly to the same extent. Intel also makes heavily-shopped die representations. Nvidia’s by far the worst, though. You’d be best off passing off Nvidia’s official die shots as being fake, because they honestly are.
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  • jasonelmore - Monday, January 06, 2014 - link

    i cant tell it's doctored. in fact, if you put took the color out and threw a sephia filter over it, it'd look just like chipworks die shots. Reply
  • psychobriggsy - Monday, January 06, 2014 - link

    You only need to look at the fifth CPU core to see that it's a shrunken down image of the other cores. In reality it's either an A7 for the low-power operation, or the fifth core is an A15 and would be roughly the same size at the other A15s. Reply
  • SetiroN - Monday, January 06, 2014 - link

    And the fact that YOU can't tell means...? Reply
  • vinayshivakumar - Tuesday, January 07, 2014 - link

    Its definitely fake die shots. If its a A7 , it can thav ethe sae exact memory positions and shrunk down sizes. It cant be an A15. I am not sure why they do this.... Reply
  • SetiroN - Monday, January 06, 2014 - link

    Thankfully, there's chipworks. Reply
  • twotwotwo - Monday, January 06, 2014 - link

    Yeah, sort of wonder what the real thing will look like now. Reply
  • chizow - Monday, January 06, 2014 - link

    Going to be one seriously fast SoC for the mobile space. Looking forward to seeing some actual designs that use it. Reply
  • Jumangi - Monday, January 06, 2014 - link

    So does this chip get Nvidia back into the good graces of device makers or is it another Tegra 4 that looks good in benchmarks but is hardly ever seen in any real world devices. Reply
  • ishmoo21 - Monday, January 06, 2014 - link

    I guess it depends on how much they charge for it and how well it works with cellular chips Reply
  • Jumangi - Monday, January 06, 2014 - link

    It better have LTE built in this time. Not having that in previous chips is one of the major reasons so many mobile device makers passed on them before. Reply
  • SetiroN - Monday, January 06, 2014 - link

    It will probably do better than its predecessor, but not by much IMO: this is a fantastic tablet chip (in contrast with Tegra 4, which didn't really make up with the higher TDP compared to Qualcomm solutions, additionally because you needed an external chip to handle WAN), but it still will be a niche product, not yet capable to compete with the competition's lower power requirements in smartphones and limited from making real use of such GPU power as there isn't any software capable of leveraging it.
    A15 was stomped by Qualcomm. When Denver arrives things might change, but for now I wouldn't bet on a huge success.
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  • jerrylzy - Monday, January 06, 2014 - link

    I really like Denver. Finally NVIDIA brought us fantastic products after a long time of incompetent products.

    I also suspect that mobile games will evolve from textures-mainly to computation-oriented and even tessellation. This will be a good trend, from which companies like Qualcomm will also benefit.
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  • eio - Monday, January 06, 2014 - link

    different sizes of A15 cores...but same internal layout? is this a fake die shot? Reply
  • cnxsoft - Monday, January 06, 2014 - link

    I'd guess the companion core might be Cortex A7 instead. I missed the beginning of the live stream, not sure if they specifically mentioned it. Reply
  • himyhuang - Monday, January 06, 2014 - link

    Tegra always lives on the paper/ppt!

    :-)
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  • ET - Monday, January 06, 2014 - link

    I'd be much more interested if NVIDIA licensed these cores to Intel for its Atom chips. That would be a nice combination. One can dream... Reply
  • BallGum - Tuesday, January 07, 2014 - link

    Developer support is going to be the real drive for this. Thankfully nvidia is doing a good job of this with tegra zone.
    Also, did you guys see the unreal 4 demo? It looked very impressive.
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