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  • darwinosx - Wednesday, September 04, 2013 - link

    Jesus that looks like ass. Probably feels the same way. Why do people buy this trash with Touchwiz ladled on top. Reply
  • GTRagnarok - Wednesday, September 04, 2013 - link

    I wonder if the screen is RGB. Reply
  • boozed - Wednesday, September 04, 2013 - link

    I think it's fair to say that at 388ppi, it doesn't matter what subpixel matrix has been chosen. Reply
  • solipsism - Saturday, September 07, 2013 - link

    If you get 388[sic] PPI after adjusting for PenTile by multiplying by 67% then I would agree, but since that isn't he case it's really close to 260 PPI. Not bad, but not great. It probably does stand out as a subpar panel in a side-by-side comparison test with RGB-RGB LC panels we are seeing today on higher-end devices. Reply
  • danielfranklin - Thursday, September 05, 2013 - link

    Im also very interested in this. I will be disappointed if it isnt.
    What ever anyone says, it does make a difference, maybe just not in the way most people would think. There is still come sort of a grain to the color of the non RGB screens. Comparing GS1, GS2, GS3, GS4, note 2. The Note3 is meant to be the top spec Samsung device this year, for it to be a stretched pentile SGS4 screen doesnt seem right.
    Help us Anand!
  • sleepeeg3 - Thursday, September 05, 2013 - link

    It's pentile. However, after comparing my Note 2 to the SGS4, I would say the difference is negligible. I was surprised. Reply
  • ssddaydream - Thursday, September 05, 2013 - link

    Do you have a link? I really want to confirm this.

    Also, Anand, could you try to determine the audio chip in each Note variant? I bet that Snapdragon has a crappy audio hub like the GS4.
  • nerd1 - Wednesday, September 04, 2013 - link

    Show me *ANY* other offerings with replaceable battery, micro SD slot and active digitzer. ANY. Reply
  • rituraj - Thursday, September 05, 2013 - link

    The answer is ... well no one can show you. People are too obsessed with metal and "premium feel" and ignore usability, versatility etc etc. Good work samsung.
  • steven75 - Thursday, September 05, 2013 - link

    IMO (and Apple's and Google's) microSD *reduces* usability as you now have to juggle files/apps between two storage silos. One being fast and reliable and the other being slow and prone to failure. Reply
  • nerd1 - Thursday, September 05, 2013 - link

    I'd rather pay $15 to get another 32GB rather than pay $200 for larger capacity device. Reply
  • yasamoka - Thursday, September 05, 2013 - link

    Internal NAND is fast and reliable? Think again!

    Fast with these new generations, maybe. But reliable? It's low lifespan and prone to bricking eventually.

    I'd rather dump all my data on a microSD and use the internal memory for system apps if need be. Maybe even dump those on the microSD, if I'm using devices older than 2012 - 2013.

    Plus, it's not that much trouble to have two storage silos. That's basically what people do on desktops with multiple HDDs.
  • pouncedashfly - Saturday, September 07, 2013 - link

    dropbox Reply
  • NeBlackCat - Tuesday, September 10, 2013 - link

    The thing about SD cards is that they generally still work even if you completely destroy your phone in one of the common ways involving water or gravity. So you can still get at your precious data. Worth having it for that alone. Reply
  • puremind - Tuesday, September 17, 2013 - link

    Totally agree with you. If people want swappable storage, to Transfer data between devices, they can either use dropbox, skydrive or equivalent Services, or just a MicroSD mounted on MicroUSB. These days they are smaller than a Cent and an be attached to a key ring... Reply
  • Davidjan - Tuesday, September 10, 2013 - link

    We can use this tiny reader to add storage: Reply
  • retrospooty - Wednesday, September 04, 2013 - link

    Other than bloat it's actually a really nice device. Touchwiz and more importantly Sambloat are the reasons I'm not getting it. If they come out with a Google edition that works on Verizon I'm all over it though. Reply
  • amdwilliam1985 - Thursday, September 05, 2013 - link

    you can forget about s-pen in the GPe of Note 3. Reply
  • Dentons - Thursday, September 05, 2013 - link

    So any any phone lacking a metal enclosure is automatically crap? I suppose elitists exist for every product type, but really? Metal or crap?

    Many of us find the technology inside the enclosure far more important that the outer casing. This device has a great OS, a very speedy processor, a fantastic screen at the right size.

    Samsung continues to buck the trend by not treating their customers like chumps. They haven't removed microSD expansion or removable batteries.. While SD media is not fast or especially reliable, it's simply fantastic for storing music, podcasts, and video. SD cards are also far cheaper than buying phones with 128GB of NAND, if they're even available in such sizes.

    Samsung also continues to allow user the ability to carry spare batteries. For many of us that travel, a phone that doesn't allow spare batteries is a deal killer.

    When this releases, it will be in my estimation be the best smartphone on the market, bar none.
  • phonehater - Thursday, September 05, 2013 - link

    check this out Dude Xiaomi Mi3 just released in Beijing 3 hrs ago Reply
  • steven75 - Thursday, September 05, 2013 - link

    Most of us are storing that content in the cloud these days, with the exception of videos.

    Also, universal USB battery packs have basically solved battery power issues. Not only do they provide FAR more power than a replacement battery, they work on all your devices, often at the same time!
  • Dentons - Thursday, September 05, 2013 - link

    USB battery packs are massive and heavy compared to the small replaceable batteries in Samsung's phones.

    I can put 3, Galaxy Note 2 batteries in my pocket and have well over 30 hours of continuous use. They're the size of small matchbox and weigh next to nothing.

    User replaceable batteries are a better, more functional solution. The only reason some manufacturers refuse to allow user replaceable batteries (and microSD expansion) is that their marketing divisions prefer the planned obsolescence of built-in, difficult-to-replace batteries.

    I vote against this with every phone purchase I make. My next phone will be a Note 3 or perhaps one of LG's new phones. It will definitely have the ability to have easily replaceable spare batteries. It will definitely have microSD expansion.
  • Heartdisease - Tuesday, September 10, 2013 - link

    I agree with the exception of why some go non replaceable. It us a unibody design problem as has been discussed on this site. I love the quality unibody feel but am loath to give up the batteries. Reply
  • nerd1 - Thursday, September 05, 2013 - link

    Swapping battery INSTANTLY makes your device 100% charged. Try that with external battery. Reply
  • Impulses - Friday, September 06, 2013 - link

    It's not quite instant for a lot of people tho... It's more like power down, remove the case, replace the battery, wait while the phone powers up, yay 100%. A quick top off from a USB battery can sometimes be preferable... Each approach has it's upside IMO. Frankly I'm not in the camp that seems to need more than one full battery charge on a daily basis, so I could care less for removable batteries, but I AM GLAD that Samsung is still providing that choice to people. Having more options is seldom a bad thing. Reply
  • nerd1 - Friday, September 06, 2013 - link

    Just take a look at recharge time comparison in any reviews here. They take up to 3 hours even using power outlet, and external battery packs takes even longer. Swapping battery takes 10 seconds in comparison. I do have an external battery pack for my tablet and use them for flights but I really hate using them. Reply
  • NeBlackCat - Tuesday, September 10, 2013 - link

    Agreed. I'd even love a future Android version to support hibernation, or have an internal capacitor or coin battery, to allow batteries to be swapped without losing any operational context. I used to replace the battery in my old Nokia several times on a long bike ride, and each time I lost continuity on the GPS logging of my ride. Reply
  • shaolin95 - Thursday, September 05, 2013 - link

    What a fucking stupid comment. iphone zombie? Reply
  • shaolin95 - Tuesday, November 19, 2013 - link

    Jesus you are a retard making an even more retarded comment. Reply
  • shaolin95 - Wednesday, November 20, 2013 - link

    What a retarded comment...guess you need to keep shoving the iphone up your ass. Reply
  • GruntboyX - Wednesday, September 04, 2013 - link

    Although not the most photogenic device. It looks like a solid evolution of the note franchise. Reply
  • bjsong - Wednesday, September 04, 2013 - link

    with faux leather material for the back cover, i wonder if the heat generated by the battery would be released fast enough to prevent the device from overheating. Reply
  • eallan - Thursday, September 05, 2013 - link

    It's literally plastic. It will be no different Reply
  • flyingpants - Thursday, September 05, 2013 - link

    Yes. All plastics are exactly the same even with a different chemistry. And they all have the exact same thermal properties with varying thickness. Reply
  • Mugur - Thursday, September 05, 2013 - link

    This will appeal to S-Pen's fans, of course, but other than that... Not a bad phone by any means, just not enough "wow" factor in it.

    These being said, I will just wait for HTC One Maxx to show (I have a One, but cannot resist to a 6" screen and a bigger battery).
  • JDG1980 - Thursday, September 05, 2013 - link

    I like the specs, but not the fake leather back. I'd prefer honest plastic to phony 'stitching' along the border.

    Is there any app for the Note series that lets you use the active digitizer as a PC input device? Seems like something that would be useful if it saved you the cost of a separate Wacom tablet.
  • Mugur - Thursday, September 05, 2013 - link

    Fortunately, there are a lot of backplate options, some without faux leather... :-) Reply
  • Infy102 - Thursday, September 05, 2013 - link

    These +2GHz quad-cores can sustain their maximum frequency at full load for what, few seconds? Even my venerable SGS II with it's meager 1.2GHz dual core manages to warm the device quite warm by mere web browsing. Reply
  • rd_nest - Thursday, September 05, 2013 - link

    If I think that AT crew is less interested in Samsung/Sony products, I don't think I will be that wrong. Definitely not the same enthusiasm as in case of Apple/MS product launch. Reply
  • MajGHOB - Thursday, September 05, 2013 - link

    Ya there is a definite bias when it comes to apple products on anandtech, but I still like the site for all the none mobile stuff they cover. They tent to be more fair minded in those areas. Having said that I'm still buying an iPhone 5S when it comes out. I have the original Note, and I actually want a smaller phone now after having used the Note for almost 2 years. Reply
  • phonehater - Thursday, September 05, 2013 - link

    Check out Xiaomi Mi3 just released 3hrs ago Reply
  • stacey94 - Thursday, September 05, 2013 - link

    They have a bias towards quality products. Remember their coverage of the HTC One? It's not an Apple product but AT covered it thoroughly. Samsung does not make quality portable electronics right now (with the exception of its Ultrabook line), so it does not receive enthusiastic AT coverage. Reply
  • rd_nest - Thursday, September 05, 2013 - link

    Strange. So they decided which is quality before even using them for some decent amount of time.
    And what about Sony? Sony has decent "cover material to ooze quality".

  • nerd1 - Thursday, September 05, 2013 - link

    Take a look at INSIDE of HTC One, which is a crappy mess. (2 large circuit board, battery sandwiched between, lots of jumper cable) Reply
  • NSAfreezone - Sunday, September 08, 2013 - link

    Theres quite a few Apple fanboy/biased websites out there one had one against N* and something else they took slowest browser and lowest cam etc etc then tried to steam roller with apple is ooops cum me lot! when then N8 cam trounced apple and to cover lack of storage said hum can use cloud! where as N8 has 3 lots phone/big on board/plus Msd 64gb in fat32.
    It was so blatantly biased
  • mmarafie - Friday, September 06, 2013 - link

    I definitely notice the bias too. If it's an Android (especially Samsung) product there won't be much enthusiasm, and any good points the hardware has Anand comments that they are "following Apple's steps". Also there has to be always a mention about how Samsung products don't have the "premium metal" feel. Or that it's a "slippery mess". Check the Galaxy Note 3 article by Anand, same bias again, no interest or enthusiasm.

    Everyone I know that owns a Galaxy phone, GS3/GS4/Note/Note etc has a case for the phone in case it drops. So I don't see the big deal about the phone being plastic or not. Also I'd rather have a lighter phone that a heavirr metal phone that will be covered in a case anyway.
  • NSAfreezone - Sunday, September 08, 2013 - link

    Metal case's =water damage (apple v finland/not fit for purpose) plastic don't plus plastic absorbs/deforms/deflects damage where as metal don't so insides damaged.
    And as been said most have a case for phone anyway as i got a note 2 but had to have white but with black flip case looks ok
  • mike55 - Thursday, September 05, 2013 - link

    How does Samsung do 3 GB of RAM in regards to how the memory channels are set up? Reply
  • blueboy11 - Thursday, September 05, 2013 - link

    The fact that it has an updated 1080p screen, more RAM (2.5GB with OS though) and a removable battery is more than enough to wet my taste for the phone. Probably get this one with tax refund, but who knows, with phones popping up like popcorn, something even better will show up! Reply
  • cap1980 - Thursday, September 05, 2013 - link

    I heard in India 3G version of Samsung Note 3 will be available with exynos octa core processor. Can anyone please answer my following questions.
    1. If I purchase LTE Qualcomm 800 version from US will it work smoothly in India, if and when 4g is available?
    2. Does processor make a lot of difference?
    3. Is it true that 4K video recording is not possible with exynos version?
    4. What other major differences will be there in two versions?
    5. Lastly why two versions at all?
  • av911 - Thursday, September 05, 2013 - link

    Why do people bring up the cloud when it comes to storage on a phone? Unless you have unlimited data and a fast connection, it's useless.

    And when I'm using a phone, I don't any wires attached to it. So, universal USB battery packs are a nuisance and a spare battery solves that. And you have a full battery to boot, not waiting for the phone to actually finish charging.
  • Solandri - Thursday, September 05, 2013 - link

    Because you smartphone is the one device that's virtually guaranteed to have an always-on Internet connection. Reply
  • RussianSensation - Thursday, September 05, 2013 - link

    Not if you travel for work in 3rd world countries, or go hiking in mountainous regions. Cloud storage is the lamest excuse when you can buy 64GB fast flash memory for $45. The presence of a MicroSD slot and removable battery provide options. The S3 note makes iPhone look like a toy. I would bet a lot of Android users would consider a 4.8-5.5 inch iphone with SD storage and removable battery even if the thickness increased 2mm. Reply
  • nerd1 - Friday, September 06, 2013 - link

    I've been using unlimited 3G in my home country but still cloud storage is vastly limited than carrying the real stuff with you. Reply
  • NSAfreezone - Sunday, September 08, 2013 - link

    Make you 100% right as thinness isn't a deal maker for me as prefer not to thin as more rigid and not so likely to break if caught somewhere like in your pocket if lean onit etc so twists it then screen bust.
    Reliable/useablitiy/good features and clear screen(of shite) is what i look for plus how is a mobile mobile if you can't go further than the end of power lead for longer than 10 mins or dead flat battery! re thing with sour apple onit in a charger festooned office when had N8 3 days =/- where as iphone 3 hours but happy so far with note 2 get over 2 days probably 3 if let run out and did get a 2nd battery from someone on flea bay so not used one that came with phone yet.
  • NSAfreezone - Sunday, September 08, 2013 - link

    I make you right on that as cloud crap is only any good as there service and your connection and as said if you don't have an unlimited data tariff your not going to leave data on plus who wants to get charged for there benefit of downloading spammy ad's/spyware.
    If you have an SD port you have far more flexibility to have more than one card so if away from home etc can keep lots on them and keep back ups or one that has important things on it or say music or photos/video's then insert that card when you need it as could have some long vid's in HD which fill most of card also take pic's move to phone mem then swop card and move to it etc which you can't do with most Lumina crap and sure can't with sour apples.
    Note phones are more like a home/office on the go where as most of the others are just fancy toys
  • NSAfreezone - Sunday, September 08, 2013 - link

    Another one is streaming data/music how can you listen to stream/music if you don't have a connection? i know some lumina you can save then play later.Lumina as not Nokia any more they got done over by Elop and MS Reply
  • Arbie - Thursday, September 05, 2013 - link

    With these capabilities and display *PLUS* micro-SD and a removable battery, the Note 3 seems to be everything I want in a phablet.

    My most common use of a device like this will be portable entertainment, and nothing competes with SD for swapping media sets in and out. Certainly not "the cloud" (is that even a serious comment ???). And I can replace the battery myself when it stops taking a charge. And it has the phone I occasionally need.

    The only obstacle for me now is price.
  • Davidjan - Friday, September 06, 2013 - link

    Really cool! It should support OTG to expand storage with this tiny reader: Reply
  • 128bit - Thursday, September 26, 2013 - link

    The Note 3 screen it's pentile matrix, 386ppi. Note 3 already released in my country i'm thinking to buy it before due to the Note 3 bigger screen with less bezels and no on screen button that reduce the actual resolution, but after i saw the Sony Xperia Z1 vs Note 3 in YouTube video that shows the speed of streaming 4k video on both phones and how Note 3 lagging and struggling behind Xperia Z1 that streaming the 4K video 2 times faster than Note 3 changed my mind.


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