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• #### EzioAs - Tuesday, July 16, 2013 - link

I really don't see myself buying any Razer peripherals for the foreseeable future. I think their main target is the people who buys things mostly on brand names and looks (like a lot of the people I know who never consider other brands (Logitech, Corsair, Sennheiser, Ducky, etc) ). To me, Razer is just like Beats (by Dre), they look fancy, but pricey and not-so impressive performance. Reply
• #### Yorgos - Tuesday, July 16, 2013 - link

I agree with most of the things you stated but not about the looks.
They are trying to make gamers like the guys in USA with the big rims, neon lights and fluorescent paint jobs on their cars.
If you can't afford that kind of car, then get a razer product.
• #### pseudo7 - Tuesday, July 16, 2013 - link

No graphs and charts makes me sad.

I like anandtech's quantitative analysis as well as qualitative.
• #### popej - Tuesday, July 16, 2013 - link

I agree, this is not a technical review at all. Just personal impressions.
Audio quality is measurable, not subjective like suggested here. I would expect rational and scientific approach form Anandtech.
• #### karasaj - Tuesday, July 16, 2013 - link

There is a reason it's listed as "impressions" and not "review." Reply
• #### popej - Tuesday, July 16, 2013 - link

It ends with recommendation, doesn't it? Like a real test, which is not. Reply
• #### VivekGowri - Wednesday, July 17, 2013 - link

I modeled this after the IEM reviews you find on Head-Fi, which is my go-to source for anything relating to headphones. There's only so much you can test with IEMs unless you're willing to basically deconstruct them for the sake of instrumentation. I just figured giving actual impressions would be more interesting than just "Razer made new headphones, they cost this much, the end." I didn't really make a recommendation, just that it's worth a look in addition to the generally popular/highest quality IEMs at the same pricepoint. Reply
• #### popej - Wednesday, July 17, 2013 - link

If you strip anecdotes, subjective opinions and "worth a look" part, we are left with title, picture and price. There is not even basic technical specs, like impedance, bandwidth, distortion. If manufacturer doesn't provide them, then it is worth noting too, then we would know that it is not a serious product. Reply
• #### VivekGowri - Wednesday, July 17, 2013 - link

Admittedly true, I definitely should have included those. That was without question a major oversight. Subjective opinions do matter though, the same way the subjective analysis of a notebook or smartphone's design matters tremendously, or the way a car subjectively feels to drive can often times matter far more than the outright performance numbers.

Example: the Nissan GT-R performs better than a Ferrari 458, that doesn't make it better to drive and that's why the Ferrari is worth three times as much. Right? I get that we're all about objective numbers (and yes, as someone with a research-based graduate engineering degree, believe me I understand the value of data), but dismissing subjective analysis is just as bad.
• #### popej - Wednesday, July 17, 2013 - link

Subjective analysis can be dismissed without any regret. What you could do is objective analysis based on subjective assessments. And in case of audio this is very difficult problem, because perception is not a trivial process. Anyway this can be done and there are usable procedures, see for example ITU recommendation BS.1116. Reply
• #### evonitzer - Saturday, July 20, 2013 - link

Wow. The chart fundamentalists came out in full force for this one. It's a single page overview, clearly, so I accept it as it is. Good stuff. Sometimes we need a brief, but reliable review saying a product is not crap. Thanks. Reply
• #### skykat989 - Tuesday, July 16, 2013 - link

Shouldn't some part of these impressions address the use of these for gaming? How wide is the sound stage? How easy is it pick out which direction a sound is coming from? Reply
• #### Aegrum - Tuesday, July 16, 2013 - link

You didn't mention what the connector looked like. One of the prime reasons it's been difficult to find a decent pair of in-ear portable gaming headphones was b/c almost every set with an in-line mic connects via the small in-line mic connector that also provides sound. For a gaming laptop, I have independent inputs for mic/sound, so I need a connector that services both. Do these connect the way most (larger) gaming headsets do via stereo+mic? Reply
• #### evonitzer - Tuesday, July 16, 2013 - link

They come with an adapter to convert the usual smartphone 3.5mm headset into a PC style headset. I was going to suggest picking one up separately for ~\$5, but it's cool Razer includes it. Reply
• #### Azethoth - Wednesday, July 17, 2013 - link

Some questions: are they supported by http://www.audyssey.com/audio-technology/mobile-ph... and if so does the audyssey app compensate for the reproduction errors you encountered?

Also, if you are not currently using the audyssey app, give it a shot and tell us if it improves things for you. I know it makes a large, actually discernable improvement, for AV receivers that use their software + mic. I am interested in how they fare with presets for mobile gear. I am unfortunately too old to test this myself (The screech Lite app tells me I am basically old and deaf, lucky to hear 16kHz, unable to be an audiophile).
• #### Azethoth - Wednesday, July 17, 2013 - link

PS: those guys may actually be able to point you in the direction of software and tests to run for headphones. Reply
• #### AncientWisdom - Wednesday, July 17, 2013 - link

I want to point out that the Razer Carcharias are also very good for their street price, especially when considering this is a headset which you usually get rubbish sound quality from compared to headphone. Their looks aren't too bad either - we purchased two for the office for use in Skype and watching the occasional video tutorial etc.

I also like this review despite lack of objective information, please do keep posting interesting audio products like this.
• #### Bobs_Your_Uncle - Thursday, July 18, 2013 - link

I appreciated your overview Vivek, & "I am unanimous in that". While reading I was given over to the thought that your descriptive styling would mesh very comfortably with many such user reviews to be found on Head-Fi (which you of course referenced later in comments).

Numeric specs indeed do have a place but, as you rightly note, audio is experiential and just simply resides in a realm that is unavoidably & unambiguously subjective. Numbers provide a great referential context for SSD performance, but by themselves numbers just don't sound "warm" or "sibilant" or....

Regarding numerical specs, charts & graphs, the most credible & authoritative reviewers (e.g. Tyll Hertsens @ InnerFidelity) always generate independent spec reports using calibrated bench equipment; a rather cumbersome process (I'm presuming) for a brief Pipeline post. Sure, you could have listed Razer's numbers, but, well...I'll just say that I used to work in marketing.

FWIW, I'd *really* like to see more audio-centric coverage along these lines. With the advent of Haswell, all of the various board mfgs. appear to be highlighting an increased emphasis on high quality audo/audiophile grade sound reproduction, each with their own approach. Any step is progress if it serves to educate away from the "Dre Beats Mindset" & promotes a Sennheiser/Stax/Grado kind of grove.
• #### popej - Monday, July 29, 2013 - link

You think measurements are cumbersome? No, they are easy, fast and quickly reveal quality of device. Really cumbersome are properly done listening tests. This is one of reasons we don't see many of them. Other is that results are boring. Proper tests simply show that human hearing is not as good as human imagination, which is basis of subjective impressions, when senses don't deliver meaningful data. Actually nothing wrong with that, this is how human perception works. There is good article about perception on Wikipedia, read for example chapter about effect of motivation and expectation.

Well, I don't expect to find listening test here, but I can't imagine technically oriented site without measurements ;)
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